Re: Dr Koukash seeks vote of no confidence in RFL : Tue May 17, 2016 11:14 am  

This move would be given far more serious attention if it were from Lenegan or McManus. Not sure the desire is there to make major changes given the lack of money at most clubs, and certainly without a credible alternative, but it's fair to say that he raises some decent points, particularly about SL's future prospects.

Re: Dr Koukash seeks vote of no confidence in RFL : Tue May 17, 2016 11:24 am  

Bull Mania wrote:

This. The RFL are incompetent but what’s the alternative. The chairmen shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near running the sport as they have proved they are just as incompetent at making decisions for the good of the sport. Don’t forget the chairmen voted through the Stobart deal, the abolishing of the U21s and introducing dual reg which is a scandal.

Yes we are massively under-marketed, but the chairmen say they want more money in the sport, yet their own attendances are going down? “It’s the RFL’s fault” just sounds like a football fan blaming everything on the Referee when his own team isn’t exactly setting the world alight. With all Koukash’s millions to invest in marketing, how much have Salfords attendances increased by in the 4 years he’s been there?

I’m not convinced there is enough support as last time from other clubs to have a vote-of-no-confidence. I’m guessing Hudgell, Carter and Koukash are definitely in favour of it from looking at their twitters (Which sometimes feels like I’m in a teenagers group chat in whatsapp)

I’d love Nigel Wood out and get someone like Blake Solly or Sally Bolton, but I doubt they have an alternative and if the chairman ran the sport, we really would be in turmoil. If they have a viable, genuine option, I’d love the RFL to be restructured, but at the moment they don’t.

clubs are losing money through various reasons

stupid super 8's- fans like to know when they are playing games well in advance not the week before to make arrangements for holidays/time off work

sky tv- fixture changes at short notice

officials!- the biggest one we should be concerned about! how officials on the pitch and off it run the game, we have lost a lot of rugby league fans who have become disenchanted with on and off field decisions as they are seen as one of the main reasons for ruining games

Re: Dr Koukash seeks vote of no confidence in RFL : Tue May 17, 2016 11:42 am  

I have to agree with him.

A lot of questions need to be asked. Attendances are going down further, particularly in the challenge cup. The profile of the game is at an all time low, you have to scour the press for any RL related news.
The marketing and promotion appears to be a complete shambles; the recent delayed launch of the 4 nations is a classic example.
Some do not like Koucash, he can be brash and outspoken, but he his putting his money where is mouth is. He seems very good with fans of all clubs and will pose for any photo etc.
I wonder where Salford would be without him, I wish he had invested millions into my club.

We do seem to be a failing sport, not only with dwindling attendances, but in the amateur game as well. Sport England are continually lowering grant payments due to the increasing lower levels of participation.

As I said, questions need to be asked. Nigel Wood earns a quarter of a million pounds per year. I have no problem with that, but where is the evidence the game is going forward and his salary is justified.

Re: Dr Koukash seeks vote of no confidence in RFL : Tue May 17, 2016 11:43 am  

Surely when it comes to a vote of no confidence in the Board of the governing body then all 30+ members should have a say on a one club one vote basis. I know that SL clubs have more say over structures and funding etc but in this incidence surely it has to involve all RFL member clubs.

Re: Dr Koukash seeks vote of no confidence in RFL : Tue May 17, 2016 11:56 am  

I do not like the guy but what he says is good, take the stupid super 8s at the moment we have 2 teams who could be in the bottom 4 threw no fault of their own ie injuries and one might go down to my mind scrap it now and has a one of the 2 top teams in the championship bring up and lets have 14 teams again and after that 1 up 1 down

Re: Dr Koukash seeks vote of no confidence in RFL : Tue May 17, 2016 11:57 am  

There are way more than 30 rl clubs. I always enjoy seeing the hypocrisy of lower league clubs fans who are always in a tizzy when their clubs voices aren't put front and centre by the big boys but then forget that most of the game actually exists outside their tiny fiefdom.

Why would you expect us to completely ignore the RFLs structure to exaggerate the voice of a minority of clubs in the middle.

Re: Dr Koukash seeks vote of no confidence in RFL : Tue May 17, 2016 12:02 pm  

well koukash got the marquee rule he wanted but failed to use this?

hope this latest attempt is more well thought through...

though he does have valid points, such as the super league becoming a feeder comp.

but im afraid we dont have enough money men to sustain a bigger salary cap for the majority of teams

Re: Dr Koukash seeks vote of no confidence in RFL : Tue May 17, 2016 12:06 pm  

Will be interesting to see who's got the stomach for the fight. I imagine a lot of the owners are not happy with the RFL but I suppose it comes down to what the alternative is. If it was a PDC type breakaway then it will need a good business head to carry it out and clubs being prepared (and financially viable) enough to tough it out for a year or two. Reckon it'll come to nought but maybe will cause a ripple or two.

Re: Dr Koukash seeks vote of no confidence in RFL : Tue May 17, 2016 12:10 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

There are way more than 30 rl clubs. I always enjoy seeing the hypocrisy of lower league clubs fans who are always in a tizzy when their clubs voices aren't put front and centre by the big boys but then forget that most of the game actually exists outside their tiny fiefdom.

Why would you expect us to completely ignore the RFLs structure to exaggerate the voice of a minority of clubs in the middle.

I love how Mr Superior gets a cob on when a fan of a 'lower league club' posts something. There are between 30 and 40 FULL members of the RFL and they are who this vote is about. The RFL, The Governing Body. It doesn't matter what league you are in when it comes to a vote concerning the makeup of the RFL board. Smokey you are still funny after all these years, but not funny haha sadly.

Re: Dr Koukash seeks vote of no confidence in RFL : Tue May 17, 2016 12:12 pm  

Is this another ploy to bump up Salfords profile? Surely this kind of innuendo and name calling is going about things in a most unprofessional manner. Which is ironic given Koukash is calling the RFL. He's like a kid having a tantrum after he's been grounded for being naughty. He may well have a (several) point, but I think he'd be taken a lot more seriously if he went about things in a different way.

Salford seem to think that there's this massive conspiracy against the club, there's even a Salford fan making libellous statements about backhanded payments to fix matches on their board.