Re: Lance Hohaia retires : Sun May 03, 2015 10:02 pm  

Cronus wrote:

I can't believe that after thousands of replays, so many people choose to ignore Hohaia deliberately moving into Flower's path to block his kick chase.

This is incorrect, Lance was almost static and was beginning to turn around when he got walloped by Flower before Lance moved in on retaliation. I think you are just clutching at straws for desperate justification, after a thousand replays maybe reality becomes distorted.

Re: Lance Hohaia retires : Mon May 04, 2015 12:22 am  

Judder Man wrote:

This is incorrect, Lance was almost static and was beginning to turn around when he got walloped by Flower before Lance moved in on retaliation. I think you are just clutching at straws for desperate justification, after a thousand replays maybe reality becomes distorted.

Static? I don't call someone bouncing on their toes watching a runner and then turning into their path, 'static'. He blocks him, simple as that. It's hardly an uncommon tactic.

Go on, watch it again and watch him carefully. He's looking at Flower throughout, staying agile on his toes as RL players should. Then he turns his back into Flower's path. Honestly, if you can't see that you're either blind, blinkered or a rare type of stupid. Pick one.

I get it. It's cool to condemn Flower. Nothing - and I repeat this for the terminally idiotic - can excuse what happened. But to pretend Hohaia played no part in instigating events shows either a childish agenda or a lack of understanding of what goes on on the RL pitch.

He went for the block and took exception when Flower clobbered him out the way. Flower then took exception to the arm in the face but took things way too far and has rightly served his time.

Awaits the next Hohaia denier. Does that rhyme?

Re: Lance Hohaia retires : Mon May 04, 2015 7:33 am  

Around the town of Wigan there is sport motto saying "Believe" which gets distorted when the rugby team loses, the fans are lost and retort to "MAKE BELIEVE" and go into denial mode.

Re: Lance Hohaia retires : Mon May 04, 2015 2:58 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

You've missed the key word in his statement. The key word is 'recurring'. Lance played in 8 games but he didn't play the full 80 in those 8 games and they weren't consecutive games either. Saints fans were wondering why he kept getting dropped. Well, now we know. We tended to think he was out of favour with the coaching staff but it would seem not.

His symptoms were recurring. Assuming Saints knew of his symptoms, they could not be blamed for allowing him to play if those symptoms cleared up, only for them to return again after playing at a later date. No doubt it was the pattern that developed which signalled there was something else going on that could become dangerous for Lance should he continue playing, and hence we have his retirement after two weeks of not playing.

That's even worse!

Re: Lance Hohaia retires : Mon May 04, 2015 5:54 pm  

Cronus. Thankyou for the laughs. You've brightened my day up

Regards

King James

Re: Lance Hohaia retires : Tue May 05, 2015 5:43 pm  

Did anybody see the last minute of the 1st half of the Rabbitohs v Bulldogs match at the start of April? The infamous Jammer Graham dummy spitting extravaganza?
Do you recall the moment Issac Luke ran from dummy half and dived over the line only to be greeted by a Kasiano's knee to the back of his head while simultaneoulsy receiving a full frontal swinging kick assault to the face by one of the Morris brothers? Now that was a head injury, yet Luke played in the test match on Sunday. It made the Hohia incident look like a school play ground fight yet he was given the all clear to play? How does that work, I'm no medical expert but that was the worse double head tackle I've ever seen.

Re: Lance Hohaia retires : Tue May 05, 2015 6:00 pm  

A bit flippant, I know, but I doubt there's that much to hurt in Isaac Luke's head.

Re: Lance Hohaia retires : Tue May 05, 2015 7:58 pm  

Cronus wrote:

...you're either blind, blinkered or a rare type of stupid... ...terminally idiotic...

...and generously stepping up to the role...

Lebron James wrote:

Regards

King James

Especially that stupid "Regards" thing. Not sure what you're trying to achieve. Puts you down there with Capdouze and his name fetish.

Re: Lance Hohaia retires : Wed May 06, 2015 5:50 am  

The reason that a lot of non-Wigan fans are struggling with your view of events is the simple fact that NOTHING excuses Flower's second punch on Hohaia. He did nothing to deserve the second punch.

Bringing all the earlier stuff into it is as irrelevant as what Flower had for breakfast that morning.

Re: Lance Hohaia retires : Wed May 06, 2015 9:00 am  

BrisbaneRhino wrote:

The reason that a lot of non-Wigan fans are struggling with your view of events is the simple fact that NOTHING excuses Flower's second punch on Hohaia. He did nothing to deserve the second punch.

And now you'll go and find where I've said otherwise. You can, can't you?

You prove my point. Some people simply can't differentiate between acknowledging the 'earlier stuff' - that Hohaia played a part in instigating and escalating the incident - and what followed. Both players were responsible for escalating the sequence of events disproportionately. Flower, ultimately, took it way too far.

To my knowledge, no-one - myself included - has said that second punch was anything but utterly disgraceful.