Re: Alibert : Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:27 pm  

Dave Lister wrote:

A disgrace. Should be sacked. Never known anything like it. Smith was no better but theres already a thread on him. Unbelieveable.

Ohh, now FC fans were complaining about him recently I recall you getting somewhat holier than thou and proclaiming it was 1) because FC lost, and 2) because he was french.

Why the sudden change of heart?

Re: Inconsistency : Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:28 pm  

Code13 wrote:

until the ref deems him onside, generally when the player who has played the ball has passed him would be the easiest rule of thumb, but otherwise, not at all that tackle.

The easiest and the most sensible and applied too.

: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:28 pm  

Dave Lister wrote:

His team mate touched it next so it was a forward pass!! Not a knock on! Hence Alibert could not disallow it. It doesn't matter about the technique of how he transfered the ball, it was still a pass.

It wasn't a pass. It rebounded off his hand, that's all. He never had control of the ball, and IMO it was fair play to call it a knock on rather than a forward pass.

He was clearly reaching out for the ball himself, it was never an intentional tap on, in fact had he not got involved, it may have gone to the supporting player anyway.

Re: Alibert : Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:28 pm  

Neil HFC wrote:

Ohh, now FC fans were complaining about him recently I recall you getting somewhat holier than thou and proclaiming it was 1) because FC lost, and 2) because he was french.

Why the sudden change of heart?

I am very embarrassed about my statement and after the past 48 hours retract what I said.

: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:28 pm  

Could you please change m wrote:

Sinfield was behind JJB when he took the ball.

Its time they either get VRs at every game or non at all. The Burrow try would have been given had it not been on Sky and I reckon Newton would have been penalised as well.

Sinfield only ended up behind JJB because JJB carried on running forward, the ball hit JJB's hand and quite clearly went forward, but he carried on his run.

: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:28 pm  

Regarding the Webb incident, it was probably technically the right decision. All I can say is it's a good job they didn't apply that law when Ellery Hanley was playing or he'd never have scored a try !

The second Bradford try was a joke though and clearly the wrong decision. An offence was committed by Newton that should have been a penalty to Leeds. It makes absolutely no difference whether the player he took out would have got to the kicker or not. It's still a penalty to take out a player like that regardless of the circumstances. The offence happened prior to the try being scored and at that point the play should be dead. Shocking decision.

Re: Alibert : Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:30 pm  

Dave Lister wrote:

I am very embarrassed about my statement and after the past 48 hours retract what I said.

tbh I've not seen the Leeds/Bradford game yet, but I assume he was up to his normal standards?

: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:30 pm  

The think that narks me about the Burrow no try is the fact that you would have to penalise every prop forward when one of the back 3 plays the ball after the kick return.

: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:30 pm  

Dave Lister wrote:

OK, so the breaking player gets tackled, does not change the fact that the player offside in the first instance gained 10 yards and going by the logic of tonight, he should be penalised.

I don't write the rules. He was offside for that one play the ball.

It's no good trying to get pedantic, the player is offside for the one tackle, if another tackle is completed then the offside/onside starts again from that ptb.

: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:31 pm  

Dave T wrote:

It wasn't a pass. It rebounded off his hand, that's all. He never had control of the ball, and IMO it was fair play to call it a knock on rather than a forward pass.

He was clearly reaching out for the ball himself, it was never an intentional tap on, in fact had he not got involved, it may have gone to the supporting player anyway.

Again, who defines what consitutes a pass? JJB transfered the ball to McGuire. Players often don't have control of the ball when "passing", with many similar flicks taking place. Again, I will re-itterate, if Ian Smith called a forward pass, perfectly fine, Smith would NEVER have called that as a knock-on though. Surely you can agree with me there? If he decided there was an offence at the time of occurance, it would have been a forward pass and not knock on.