Re: Sinfield's Leeds the best team ever? : Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:38 am  

Buggo wrote: [/color] When was there a realistic offer made to Australian clubs? This is a Leeds Myth as I can not see any press where Australian Clubs have been offered the game and turned it down. If Leeds offered to play the Storm three weeks into the NRL season on a Wednesday night I am sure they would accept. ""For next year the plan was to play it in England but it could be subject to change if the NRL wish to stage it. We're ready to go and have always been ready to go. The ball is very much in their court." http://www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... an-England

Buggo wrote: [/color] When was there a realistic offer made to Australian clubs? This is a Leeds Myth as I can not see any press where Australian Clubs have been offered the game and turned it down. If Leeds offered to play the Storm three weeks into the NRL season on a Wednesday night I am sure they would accept. ""For next year the plan was to play it in England but it could be subject to change if the NRL wish to stage it. We're ready to go and have always been ready to go. The ball is very much in their court." http://www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... an-England

Re: Sinfield's Leeds the best team ever? : Fri Oct 19, 2012 11:10 am  

christopher wrote: ""For next year the plan was to play it in England but it could be subject to change if the NRL wish to stage it. We're ready to go and have always been ready to go. The ball is very much in their court." http://www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... an-England That is a statement to the media, the same as he has said on the pitch after winning the league title. That is not an official offer or discussion, its talking crap in the heat of the moment, when its known it will not be played in Oz. I believe that the game was decided to be played in England some months ago regardless of "offers" Why is it not played alternately? Because its a SL vehicle to be played at a time that suits the SL Club at their venue and with everything in the English Clubs favour, its not complicated.

christopher wrote: ""For next year the plan was to play it in England but it could be subject to change if the NRL wish to stage it. We're ready to go and have always been ready to go. The ball is very much in their court." http://www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... an-England That is a statement to the media, the same as he has said on the pitch after winning the league title. That is not an official offer or discussion, its talking crap in the heat of the moment, when its known it will not be played in Oz. I believe that the game was decided to be played in England some months ago regardless of "offers" Why is it not played alternately? Because its a SL vehicle to be played at a time that suits the SL Club at their venue and with everything in the English Clubs favour, its not complicated.

Re: Sinfield's Leeds the best team ever? : Fri Oct 19, 2012 2:58 pm  

Buggo wrote:

That is a statement to the media, the same as he has said on the pitch after winning the league title.
That is not an official offer or discussion, its talking crap in the heat of the moment, when its known it will not be played in Oz.
I believe that the game was decided to be played in England some months ago regardless of "offers"
Why is it not played alternately?
Because its a SL vehicle to be played at a time that suits the SL Club at their venue and with everything in the English Clubs favour, its not complicated.

You've been given a direct quote from the Leeds CEO that says "We're ready to go and have always been ready to go. The ball is very much in their court"

Aside from your asinine ramblings do you have any direct quotes to refute his clear intentions? Perhaps something to substantiate the made up quotes you've attributed to Bellamy?

FWIW, the Aussies are not interested in staging it because it wouldn't garner the same interest or make the same amount of money down under. Fair enough, but don't dress that up as Leeds being unwilling to play it down under. Leeds have shown willingness to do so.

On a tangent, maybe it's always over here after the trouble Wigan had getting money out of Brisbane following their historic win?

Re: Sinfield's Leeds the best team ever? : Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:04 pm  

Leeds owner Gary Hetherington has expressed a desire to play in Australia This was after the 2011 GF and the build up to the 2012 WCC. The Rhinos were hoping to play the challenge in Australia but there was not enough time to set it up.

Leeds owner Gary Hetherington has expressed a desire to play in Australia This was after the 2011 GF and the build up to the 2012 WCC. The Rhinos were hoping to play the challenge in Australia but there was not enough time to set it up.

Re: Sinfield's Leeds the best team ever? : Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:27 pm  

GiantDee wrote:

You really cannot fairly compare teams from different eras. Take the great Wigan team, the would get smashed by todays Leeds team, due to advances in sport science even over that relatively short time, but they were a great team. The game is one of skill and physical prowess and any comparison of eras can only look at half the game (skill) as the more modern era will win the physical comparison every time.

To a certain extent, I disagree with this theory.....I agree there is more professionalism in today's game, due to all clubs being full time, but to suggest that Leeds would smash that Wigan team is an absolute joke - It would more likely be the other way around.

The main difference between the eras is that nowadays there isn't as much of gap between top players and those at the bottom end of the quality scale - Pre Super League, there were many great players who would definitely hack it at today's level, but there was also plenty of very mediocre players who wouldn't last 10 minutes in today's game....What made Wigan so special is that nearly all their side were at the top end of the quality scale.

If you really think today's game is that much better than that early 90's era, just compare the GB/England sides from then and now - Its embarrassing how poor we are now compared to then, seing as Super League was supposed to improve the standard of our game, because that GB team of old would tear the present bunch a new bumhole....

Re: Sinfield's Leeds the best team ever? : Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:29 pm  

They wouldnt, there were some god awful players around late 80's early 90's. Its easy to look like a world beater when you are playing against a panel beater.

Re: Sinfield's Leeds the best team ever? : Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:40 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

They wouldnt, there were some god awful players around late 80's early 90's. Its easy to look like a world beater when you are playing against a panel beater.

How many panel beaters did that Brisbane side have in its ranks back in '94, or how many did you have in your line up for '94 and '95 Cup finals?....

That Wigan side of the early 90's, when put next to your present side, comes out on top in my eyes.....Yes, they did play against a weaker league in general, but there were still some very handy sides around who could test them, and more often than not they would come out on top.

Re: Sinfield's Leeds the best team ever? : Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:14 pm  

They were players of their time, they didnt play the modern game so they didnt need the skills a modern day player has.

The tackles are harder, the players fitter, the game quicker, the gaps smaller, the defences better

Re: Sinfield's Leeds the best team ever? : Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:49 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

They were players of their time, they didnt play the modern game so they didnt need the skills a modern day player has.

The tackles are harder, the players fitter, the game quicker, the gaps smaller, the defences better

Its all opinions I suppose, but just for starters, Offiah v Hall, Edwards v McGuire, Hanley v Sinfield.....You'd need a damn good argument to convince me that any of those 3 Leeds players come out on top in those match ups.

Re: Sinfield's Leeds the best team ever? : Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:09 pm  

anyway to get back on topic
i have heard a rumour that wigan.warrington,saints and hull fc etc etc have finally grasped the concept of what it takes to be crowned the official sl champions, apparently you can actually finish anywhere between first and eighth

i anticipate more big time bottling by the top sides during the seasons finale as opposed to the side that knows how to perform when it matters