Re: Are Leigh the worst ever SL team? : Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:00 am  

christopher wrote:

Interesting you criticise the article but can’t get the scores correct yourself?

It was 10 - 6 at halftime and Leigh didn’t score again until leeds were 24-6 up

Leigh were never ‘level’

Did Leigh score a try in the first half?
Was it all over when Leeds scored their first?
Was it foregone after the first stanza?
I'm not a professional journalist working for the state broadcaster.......read the article again and tell me that's not a one eyed review ...you pedantic tw@

Re: Are Leigh the worst ever SL team? : Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:04 am  

orangeman wrote:

Did Leigh score a try in the first half?
Was it all over when Leeds scored their first?
Was it foregone after the first stanza?
I'm not a professional journalist working for the state broadcaster.......read the article again and tell me that's not a one eyed review ...you pedantic tw@

Calm down, if you’re going to criticise a report for being bad best if you get your facts straight yourself.

Re: Are Leigh the worst ever SL team? : Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:56 am  

Donnyman wrote:

We don't know exactly what the Chairmen knew, when so many of them tried to get that 12th. place.

We don't know if the 14 club proposal was actually on the drawing board at that time either. We can speculate Beaumont wanted that last place because he's overenthusiastic, but so was every other Championship club with SL ambitions. They all scrambled for that place.......

Either way Leigh knew exactly what they were getting themselves into which is the whole point.

As I say I don’t think Leigh or particular DB would be so shortsighted to sign up for a year of losses on half money based on a ‘proposal’ that maybe we will have 14 teams up next year. That would always rely on a vote from the clubs agreeing to share more money out which was never likely to happen.

Hindsight but as I said before, Leigh could be doing what Toulouse and Fev are doing at the moment. Knocking on the door of SL with a real feel good factor. That itself justifies why Bradford and York etc wrongly applied as it was their only shot at SL as they wouldn’t be able to make it on merit on the field.

Re: Are Leigh the worst ever SL team? : Sat Aug 14, 2021 7:37 pm  

Negative RL threads… do you think the RL fan base is glass half full community as we are half way through the comp and the main discussion is not who will win the super league and how fantastic Catalan are doing but ‘are Leigh the worst team’.

Re: Are Leigh the worst ever SL team? : Sat Aug 14, 2021 7:53 pm  

Leyther14 wrote:

Negative RL threads… do you think the RL fan base is glass half full community as we are half way through the comp and the main discussion is not who will win the super league and how fantastic Catalan are doing but ‘are Leigh the worst team’.

L14, Leigh will be a better club away from the toxic Superleague. Apart from the big 6 clubs, the rest are Minions. We should keep well away.

Re: Are Leigh the worst ever SL team? : Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:14 am  

Bulls4 wrote:

Leigh knew exactly what they were getting themselves into which is the whole point.

As I say I don’t think Leigh or particular DB would be so shortsighted to sign up for a year of losses on half money based on a ‘proposal’ that maybe we will have 14 teams up next year.

You only "don't think" 14 clubs was DB's motive, then you say "Leigh knew exactly what they were getting themselves into" It's ambiguous....

But never mind, if Beaumont had a reason to apply, or SL had a reason to accept them then maybe that will come out in the wash at some later date.

Re: Are Leigh the worst ever SL team? : Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:47 pm  

Donnyman wrote:

You only "don't think" 14 clubs was DB's motive, then you say "Leigh knew exactly what they were getting themselves into" It's ambiguous....

But never mind, if Beaumont had a reason to apply, or SL had a reason to accept them then maybe that will come out in the wash at some later date.

It’s not ambiguous. The difference between what I knew and what DB knew is obvious. Your point seems to be a bit pedantic.

Eitherway what’s done is done. Leigh get a year of super league for their sins and SL got a complete competition risk free

Re: Are Leigh the worst ever SL team? : Mon Aug 16, 2021 10:12 am  

wire-quin wrote:

The top clubs in SL have next years squad signed up before the current season ends

The team coming up wins the GF in late Sept/early Oct when all the players are signed up.

The odds are massively stacked against the promoted side. They really need to be protected for a season.

This is why the 2 x 10 concept could tick all boxes if clubs took a wider game approach and not paying yesterdays overdue bills.

The second tier of SL MUST be a full time comp with a minimum salary spend, and would need 5/600k funding to allow a 1.2m min spend. At this point relegation into SL2 is not the death bell it currently would be for a Wakefield or Salford going into the Championship, but more importantly the skill gap between comps would be reduced and the extra funding used to strengthen rather than replace completely a part time squad.

HullKR are a classic example of adding to a FT squad that was largely kept after relegation. Leigh are a classic example, 2017, of adding to a competitive full time squad that beat 3 SL teams in the middle 8's to win a place - competitive in all but a couple of games and really shouldn't have gone down. Keeping FT on a near SL cap without the expensive imports means you become competitive

A full time SL2 is a logical step to move into and up from, that allows 20 teams fans to have a vested interest in purchasing the product from Sky and allows Sky to show more games and watch a promotion/relegation battle unfold - something UK sports fans are used to and watch

Re: Are Leigh the worst ever SL team? : Mon Aug 16, 2021 10:31 am  

Bulls4 wrote:

It’s not ambiguous. The difference between what I knew and what DB knew is obvious. Your point seems to be a bit pedantic.

Either way what’s done is done. Leigh get a year of super league for their sins and SL got a complete competition risk free

That is partially correct, ie SL gave Sky the minimum they required at no risk.

What is missing is that in early December Salford had managed to reduce their costs by breaking a cva that found them deducted 6 points that didnt matter, the assumption was they were skint and may struggle to see the season out on reduced funding.

Leigh had recruited to be FT in the Championship, with Cash available to add for the play offs. The second lock down wasn't planned but was a possibility. The biggest hurdle as the 700k cash in the bank to spend on 6/7 quality players never got used as available Players simply wouldn't travel to the UK from the NRL. DB knew he needed 6/7 quality players to be competitive (not finish bottom) - he couldn't find them, we got battered with injury pre season and early doors and the rest is history.

Leigh are now recruiting a very capable squad for 2022, my only fear is that it wont have the incentive to become the 12th SL club due to the worst case scenario of keeping 12 in 2022 and moving to 2 x 10, whilst underfunding SL2 in 2023 that includes 8 clubs from the championship - ie The Championship in all but name, 4 from a 14 club SL and 6 from Championship is a far better balance as only 4/6 clubs would have to transition from PT to FT

Re: Are Leigh the worst ever SL team? : Mon Aug 16, 2021 1:39 pm  

Get those postponed games rearranged Leigh.
You only need a minimum of 6 wins to stay up.
You can do it!