: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:37 pm  

Dave Lister wrote:

Its no good getting pedantic? The irony.

You may think the Webb decision is pedantic, but the bloke was 8-10m offside.

: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:37 pm  

saint billy wrote:

If the ball leaves your hands in a forward motion, then its a forward pass, that's pretty much end of story.

He didn't pass it anyway.

So now it was a forward pass? Make your mind up.

: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:37 pm  

When Alibert is reffing he creates confusion amongst fans and players.
He gives incorrect signals etc. and the top and bottom of it is he isn't good enough.

: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:38 pm  

EL CAMO wrote:

I thought Ganson reffed the derby fine.
He let things flow and allowed rugby as it should be imo.

So are you telling me neither team went offside once in 80 minutes? What happens in the next match? Ignore the rules then too? Just so the game can "flow". Pathetic argument IMO.

: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:39 pm  

EL CAMO wrote:

When Alibert is reffing he creates confusion amongst fans and players.
He gives incorrect signals etc. and the top and bottom of it is he isn't good enough.

I agree with you here. He gave one decision in the Quins-Catalans match that baffled me when he blew his whistle and confused me even more than he gave a totally unrecognisable signal.

: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:39 pm  

Dave T wrote:

On your first point, like I said earlier, it does happen occasionally, but if they don't get involved (ie make a tackle) then there is no penalty given. A good ref will communicate and tell them they are offside and they won't make a tackle.

re Webb, it's a good point, but one that would happen unfortunately, it is a quirk, but one which rarely happens, hence the discussion here, as it was a rare one.

I understand what your saying. If Webb had of just stayed out of the play, then a try would have been given, so in that respect i agree with you.

: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:41 pm  

Dave Lister wrote:

So now it was a forward pass? Make your mind up.

Hence why i said, he didn't pass it anyway, because it was a knock on.

'Could you please change m' was trying to say that the ball could be passed forward as long as the player runs forward, but IMO, this isn't the case, and i was clearing that up. As i have said, it was a knock on, as he didn't pass the ball and if Sinfield wasn't there it would have gone to ground a knock on been given.

: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:41 pm  

Sadfish wrote:

Not really as most Props wouldn't have got involved in the next play the ball usually as it was a backs try.

And that is the issue that people are failing to grasp!!!

The issue wasn't that Webb was in front of the ptb, this happens all the time with forwards struggling to get back after a kick, the issue was that he then interfered.

If you are in front of the ptb, you are ruled out of that tackle.

: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:42 pm  

Dave Lister wrote:

I agree with you here. He gave one decision in the Quins-Catalans match that baffled me when he blew his whistle and confused me even more than he gave a totally unrecognisable signal.

In fact I have come to the conclusion he is deranged.
In fact he has a pathological hatred of RL and is on a mission to send the SL into disarray with his randomness.



WE HAVE TO MAKE A STAND!

: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:42 pm  

if webb had made a attempt to get back onside it would have been given...but he did'nt..






as for the rest of the game....the amount of forward passes that got missed was shocking