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| Quote classycas2009="classycas2009"Its not rocket science is it really? start and end at same time....why cant teams plan the following season?'" Because they start doing this around June/July time or even earlier, rather than throwing a squad of rejects together a month or two before the start of the season 
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| Quote littlerich="littlerich"No amount of bleating is going to change things.
Clubs in the Championship have to grasp the bull by the horns and make the competition a success in it's own right. Increased prize monies and sponsorship will help. Weekly live TV coverage should help to bring in sponsorship. It's up to these clubs - working with the RFL, to improve the standards in this league. Widnes are doing it. So are Halifax. So are Barrow and Featherstone.'"
Is it ?
In what way ?
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"So the simple answer is to have the Chamionship finish before the SL , like we did back in 2001 when Widnes mangaged to recruit well enough to finish 7 th in 2002
Not rocket science is it
But it isn't viable as long as you have expansion teams in as they might get relegated
That is the problem not that a heartland club might go down , they would survive
The problem we all have is that the RFL dont have the balls to admit what the problem really is
If they did we would accept it , us being straight talking northen folk and not souther ' jessies '
'" That still does not stop the problem of the relegated Super League club dominating the Championship competition and getting stripped of its foundations and any progress it had made over the past 5 years. As well as the fact that there would still be a massive influx of journeymen Australians, such as the ones Widnes signed that eventually led to them being relegated again 3 years later. It's alright saying 'they would survive', but really it is just ridiculous that people feel there should be a need for them to have to 'survive'. And bringing some anti-expansionist garbage isn't going to change that.
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"Is it ? '"
Is it what?
[i"Is it"[/i doesn't make sense in the context of that part of my quote you put in bold.
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| Quote classycas2009="classycas2009"And whats the point in getting to the play off's, if your not going up...yeah really exsiting that'"
How about the chance to win the league you have been playing in all year?
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| Quote Red Red Robin="Red Red Robin"How about the chance to win the league you have been playing in all year?'"
yeah and by rights then you should step up
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| Quote Wes Hooligan="Wes Hooligan"That still does not stop the problem of the relegated Super League club dominating the Championship competition and getting stripped of its foundations and any progress it had made over the past 5 years. As well as the fact that there would still be a massive influx of journeymen Australians, such as the ones Widnes signed that eventually led to them being relegated again 3 years later. It's alright saying 'they would survive', but really it is just ridiculous that people feel there should be a need for them to have to 'survive'. And bringing some anti-expansionist garbage isn't going to change that.'"
So you admit that the removal of relegation and promotion is to protect expansion clubs
The players Widnes signed when they were promoted were not the ones that got them relegated , it was an almost totally different team
Once again you are falling into the trap of assuming that every club can avoid finishing bottom in a sporting competition , we hae a thread on the VT about it at the moment
For every winner there is a loser , dont forget that
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| Quote littlerich="littlerich"Is it what?
[i"Is it"[/i doesn't make sense in the context of that part of my quote you put in bold.'"
Ok , Why should being on the TV at some point in the season help with sponsorship to the championship clubs ?
The deals for sponsors are done before you know wether you are on the telly
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"So you admit that the removal of relegation and promotion is to protect expansion clubs'" No, I haven't mentioned expansion clubs once
Quote StarbugThe players Widnes signed when they were promoted were not the ones that got them relegated , it was an almost totally different team '" Yes, but the fact that they based their team on those journeymen meant that they had no structure to fall back on once they had left/retired, and they ended up signing players like Troy Wozniak and Sala Fa'alongo to try and replace them. Hence they got relegated after 3 years and not one, but the cause was still the same. It was similar at Salford when they got relegated in 2006.
Quote StarbugOnce again you are falling into the trap of assuming that every club can avoid finishing bottom in a sporting competition , we hae a thread on the VT about it at the moment
For every winner there is a loser , dont forget that'" This did not make any sense to me. Someone obviously has to finish bottom, what does that have to do with this?
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| Quote classycas2009="classycas2009"yeah and by rights then you should step up'"
Not necessarily. The National Conference champions aren't promoted to the Championship 1, crickets minor league champions aren't promoted to the the county championship, there's no P&R in British Ice Hockey.
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