: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:33 pm  

classycas2009 wrote:

Its not rocket science is it really? start and end at same time....why cant teams plan the following season?

Because they start doing this around June/July time or even earlier, rather than throwing a squad of rejects together a month or two before the start of the season

: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:34 pm  

Wellsy13 wrote:

They shouldn't want to come bottom because of their pride.



So what's the point in having play-offs in the SL then? Nobody goes up?

In fact, what's the point in having champions in SL? There is no promotion is there?

are you 4 real?...dougnut

: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:36 pm  

littlerich wrote:

No amount of bleating is going to change things.

Clubs in the Championship have to grasp the bull by the horns and make the competition a success in it's own right. Increased prize monies and sponsorship will help. Weekly live TV coverage should help to bring in sponsorship. It's up to these clubs - working with the RFL, to improve the standards in this league. Widnes are doing it. So are Halifax. So are Barrow and Featherstone.

Is it ?

In what way ?

: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:38 pm  

Starbug wrote:

So the simple answer is to have the Chamionship finish before the SL , like we did back in 2001 when Widnes mangaged to recruit well enough to finish 7 th in 2002

Not rocket science is it

But it isn't viable as long as you have expansion teams in as they might get relegated

That is the problem not that a heartland club might go down , they would survive

The problem we all have is that the RFL dont have the balls to admit what the problem really is

If they did we would accept it , us being straight talking northen folk and not souther ' jessies '

That still does not stop the problem of the relegated Super League club dominating the Championship competition and getting stripped of its foundations and any progress it had made over the past 5 years. As well as the fact that there would still be a massive influx of journeymen Australians, such as the ones Widnes signed that eventually led to them being relegated again 3 years later. It's alright saying 'they would survive', but really it is just ridiculous that people feel there should be a need for them to have to 'survive'. And bringing some anti-expansionist garbage isn't going to change that.

: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:38 pm  

Starbug wrote:

Is it ?

Is it what?

"Is it" doesn't make sense in the context of that part of my quote you put in bold.

: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:39 pm  

classycas2009 wrote:

are you 4 real?...dougnut

Go on then, what is the difference between them?

: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:39 pm  

classycas2009 wrote:

And whats the point in getting to the play off's, if your not going up...yeah really exsiting that

How about the chance to win the league you have been playing in all year?

: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:42 pm  

Red Red Robin wrote:

How about the chance to win the league you have been playing in all year?

yeah and by rights then you should step up

: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:48 pm  

Wes Hooligan wrote:

That still does not stop the problem of the relegated Super League club dominating the Championship competition and getting stripped of its foundations and any progress it had made over the past 5 years. As well as the fact that there would still be a massive influx of journeymen Australians, such as the ones Widnes signed that eventually led to them being relegated again 3 years later. It's alright saying 'they would survive', but really it is just ridiculous that people feel there should be a need for them to have to 'survive'. And bringing some anti-expansionist garbage isn't going to change that.

So you admit that the removal of relegation and promotion is to protect expansion clubs

The players Widnes signed when they were promoted were not the ones that got them relegated , it was an almost totally different team

Once again you are falling into the trap of assuming that every club can avoid finishing bottom in a sporting competition , we hae a thread on the VT about it at the moment

For every winner there is a loser , dont forget that

: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:51 pm  

littlerich wrote:

Is it what?

"Is it" doesn't make sense in the context of that part of my quote you put in bold.

Ok , Why should being on the TV at some point in the season help with sponsorship to the championship clubs ?

The deals for sponsors are done before you know wether you are on the telly