: Sun Nov 16, 2008 7:44 pm  

Alphabetti Spaghetti Go! wrote:

That rich coming from someone deluded enough to think Hull can rise from 11th to 4th!

So you honestly think Hull would of still finished 11th without the injuries!

: Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:14 pm  

A unknown superstar wrote:

So you honestly think Hull would of still finished 11th without the injuries!

NEWSFlash - All teams get injuries. The trick is to employ a coaching team that adapts and copes, not uses it as a season-long excuse.

: Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:25 pm  

Alphabetti Spaghetti Go! wrote:

NEWSFlash - All teams get injuries. The trick is to employ a coaching team that adapts and copes, not uses it as a season-long excuse.

Name me the last team to have the first choice halves play only 20 minutes together all season!

No excuse but a damn good reason as to why we came 11th.

Watch how we go next year. If this is wrong put some money on us being bottom 3.....bet you dont!

: Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:27 pm  

Alphabetti Spaghetti Go! wrote:

NEWSFlash - All teams get injuries. The trick is to employ a coaching team that adapts and copes, not uses it as a season-long excuse.

: Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:27 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

take away the SC deductions and they finished top 4 in 2007,

Take away the other 8 teams in the league and they've been in the top four every year, forever. Take away those four teams and they've never been in the top four. Take away points earned whilst cheating the cap and at least one of those teams would have been relegated. I'm not sure why you'd want to do any of those things though, just as I'm not sure why you'd want to alter the league in 2007 to reflect an inaccurate representation of events.

SmokeyTA wrote:

and three of those four have finished top 4 in every season of SL,

only 5 clubs have contested a grandfinal, and only four have contested more than 1, and those 4 have contested every single GF bar 2006, when the other club, Hull made their one and only GF

its a pretty damning indictment of how competitive SL is

All true, yet, equally, all irrelevant to anything I've written on this thread.

: Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:23 am  

1. St Helens
2. Leeds
3. Warrington
4. Catalans
5. Wigan
6. Bradford
7. Hull KR
8. Hull FC
9. Huddersfield
10. Wakefield
11. Castleford
12. Harlequins
13. Salford
14. Celtic Crusaders

: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:37 am  

trys'r'us wrote:

Take away the other 8 teams in the league and they've been in the top four every year, forever. Take away those four teams and they've never been in the top four. Take away points earned whilst cheating the cap and at least one of those teams would have been relegated. I'm not sure why you'd want to do any of those things though, just as I'm not sure why you'd want to alter the league in 2007 to reflect an inaccurate representation of events.

the SC deductions were from offences committed in 2006, not 2007,

on a matter of quality the big 4 were the top 4 in 2007,

if anything removing 4 points from wigan altered the league to give an inaccurate representation of events, you tried to make a point that the top4 wasnt 'nailed' on because it hadnt happened for 5 years, when that wasnt true, it happened 1 year ago but points deductions artificially altered the league

All true, yet, equally, all irrelevant to anything I've written on this thread.

Leaguefan made a point that part of SLs problem is that it isnt competitive and there is little deviation at the top end. These results are evidence of that

to pretend the big 4 dont dominate the league, when at least 3 have finished top 4 in ever year of SL is just wrong

: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:50 am  

leeds
saints
warrington
catalans
wigan
hull kr
bradford
hull
huddersfield
cas
harlequins
wakey
salford
celtic

: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:18 am  

Fully wrote:

1. St Helens
2. Leeds
3. Warrington
4. Catalans
5. Hull FC
6. Bradford
7. Hull KR
8. Wigan
9. Castleford
10. Wakefield
11. Huddersfield
12. Harlequins
13. Salford
14. Celtic Crusaders

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: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:42 am  

SmokeyTA wrote:

to pretend the big 4 dont dominate the league, when at least 3 have finished top 4 in ever year of SL is just wrong

Sadly, it seems that the big 4 has shrunk to be the big two for the time being. The wise money will be that the Challenge Cup will once again be won by the winners of the Saints Vs Leeds tie, in whatever round that takes place, while those two will contest the grand final again.

We will continue to have shock results where the likes of Cas beats Leeds or Saints. This will lead to talk of the most competitive Super League ever, but as you were eluding to in your earlier post, the top of the league will have a very familiar look to it at the end of the season.