: Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:00 am  

You dont need to 'test' yourself in the NRL to know your a good player. The players i mentioned are class players. Thats not an opinion it is a fact!

Put it one way, Paul Wellens is 'not' World class but his a hell of alot better than the likes of Luke Pattern and Rhys Wesser who are number 1's for their respective clubs in the NRL (Bulldogs and Souths). However he is nowhere in the same class as your Slaters and Stewarts.

The point is most decent decent super league players could get a regular spot in an NRL team, thats not saying they're world class.

Fair point.
Not sure if I would take Wellens over Pattern, maybe Wesser who has been at a dud club where its hard to shine.

More English players should have a go at the NRL, if they went ok it would most likely increase their dollar value when they return to SL.

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:12 am  

Ashmeister wrote:

Put it one way, Paul Wellens is 'not' World class but his a hell of alot better than the likes of Luke Pattern and Rhys Wesser who are number 1's for their respective clubs in the NRL (Bulldogs and Souths).

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:43 am  

even i'd laugh at that...


i had a cracking row with a saints fan during the world cup in which a called wellens every name under the sun,the saints fan said i would'nt call him too is face, i said i would but i'd run away...he would'nt catch me, and i've got a dodgy knee

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:45 am  

roughyedspud wrote:

even i'd laugh at that...


i had a cracking row with a saints fan during the world cup in which a called wellens every name under the sun,the saints fan said i would'nt call him too is face, i said i would but i'd run away...he would'nt catch me, and i've got a dodgy knee

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:39 am  

Ashmeister wrote:

You dont need to 'test' yourself in the NRL to know your a good player. The players i mentioned are class players. Thats not an opinion it is a fact!

true

Put it one way, Paul Wellens is 'not' World class but his a hell of alot better than the likes of Luke Pattern and Rhys Wesser who are number 1's for their respective clubs in the NRL (Bulldogs and Souths). However he is nowhere in the same class as your Slaters and Stewarts.

nowhere near the truth. wellens is nowhere near the class of wesser and especially luke patten.

The point is most decent decent super league players could get a regular spot in an NRL team, thats not saying they're world class.

a lot of decent super league players could definately play in the nrl, it would be great to see a few more out here, even if it just for a couple of years.

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:39 am  

By the looks of it Gleeson will be out there next year.
Shame because it'll be hard to replace him. Talk of Joel Monaghan but he's not in the same stratosphere as a centre.

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:37 am  

Dico wrote:

By the looks of it Gleeson will be out there next year.
Shame because it'll be hard to replace him. Talk of Joel Monaghan but he's not in the same stratosphere as a centre.

Where is Gleeson going?
He has one of the worst try scoring records at Test level against the Southern Hemisphere sides ever.
Ordinary could be his middle name and if he could have two name unfit might be the next.

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:08 pm  

Jonesy wrote:

Where is Gleeson going?
He has one of the worst try scoring records at Test level against the Southern Hemisphere sides ever.
Ordinary could be his middle name and if he could have two name unfit might be the next.

He's asked for a release we are led to believe at the end of this season.
The local paper did a bit of an interview with him mid way through last year.
I'm guessing you don't see a lot of him to be honest because while he isn't quite as quick as gasnier or as strong as Inglis put him in a 2 on 2 situation in a tight space 95% of the time a try will be scored.
If you don't rate him fair enough but I watch him and Matt King (who was rated in Aus pretty highly) week in week out in the same team. King isn't fit to lace Gleesons boots.

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:26 pm  

I've argued this before and I'll do it again, the two competitions are almost completely different in style and nature.

I Accept that NRL is a higher standard competition than Super League, but people need to understand that being a superstar in one competition doesn't necessarily mean that you will be able to cut in the other.

There may be exceptions to this rule for players like Darren Lockyer etc.
But there are numerous examples of players who have been superb in the NRL being unable to make an impact In the Super League.

There is every reason to believe that the same would be true Of Super League players.

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:29 pm  

I bet a lot of it comes down to playing and training with confidence in an environment you're used to.
Why has Monaghan turned into a player that can't, well, play. I doubt he's training poorly. Probably a confidence thing.