Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.
I wouldn't expect a Bradford fan to accept tonight's defeat due to Wire playing well, that's not the way i works.
In terms of the pundits though, let's just compare it to the next time Saints or Leeds do this to a team.
It's clearly not worth getting into it here, as fans have made their mind up that Wire are crap, and that is all there is to it, but today IMO, we showed that when things stick, we can play.
When it comes down to it, Bradford were favourites tonight, most of you expected them to batter us. Clarke predicted a big win for Wire. Surprise surprise, when we win, it's becasue they were crap, and we were below average.
Give up, stop being pathetic. I was going for a Warrington win tonight and was happy that they ran up a decent score. The fact is, an 'outstanding' performance would have run up 70-80 points. That's not to take anything away from Warrington's 58, but I've seen Wire play far better and lose. Celtic would have got 40+ against Bradford tonight. I can understand that you are happy about getting such a big win, but that doesn't mean that the rest of us have to heap extortionate praise on what wasn't even a particularly clinical performance. One of the Warrington tries came after the ball had hit a Bradford player in the face. One came from the kick off FFS, they were totally inept.
I wouldn't expect a Bradford fan to accept tonight's defeat due to Wire playing well, that's not the way i works.
And yet when Quins won, we ere made to believe that we won because Wire were poor.
Dave T wrote:
In terms of the pundits though, let's just compare it to the next time Saints or Leeds do this to a team.
Saints did it to us last year. 54-0. It was considered standard.
Dave T wrote:
It's clearly not worth getting into it here, as fans have made their mind up that Wire are crap, and that is all there is to it, but today IMO, we showed that when things stick, we can play.
Agreed. Hence our surprise, at beatng you by 52 points and getting NIL credit.
Dave T wrote:
When it comes down to it, Bradford were favourites tonight, most of you expected them to batter us. Clarke predicted a big win for Wire. Surprise surprise, when we win, it's becasue they were crap, and we were below average.
Also see: Quins beating Wire by 52. Smith's first game in charge, an unfancied side taking on one of the 'big four'. We were expected to get hammered.
We put 60 points on you and no-one said "Quins played well". All we got was "Wire were poor".
You're using the same argument tonight yet it seems more important because you've won that it did when you've lost.
Well seeing as the Bulls get everything biased towards them in this area and the Cougars don't then after last night game.
Bulls fans, come and watch the Cougars, we can play better than that and at least give the opposition a game
Sound twitter and bisted regarding bias, talk to Bradford Council about who gets what out of the council cake.
Regarding the Wolves, they looked more like a team and their attack was an improvement. Defence is STILL poor, they let some real soft tries and better attacking teams than the Bulls would have scored far more but it's showing signs of improvement.
And yet when Quins won, we ere made to believe that we won because Wire were poor.
Saints did it to us last year. 54-0. It was considered standard.
Agreed. Hence our surprise, at beatng you by 52 points and getting NIL credit.
Also see: Quins beating Wire by 52. Smith's first game in charge, an unfancied side taking on one of the 'big four'. We were expected to get hammered.
We put 60 points on you and no-one said "Quins played well". All we got was "Wire were poor".
You're using the same argument tonight yet it seems more important because you've won that it did when you've lost.
Don't you love balanced opinions?
You quote my point, but comletely miss it!
When Quins battered Wire, the Wire fans slated the team. After last night I would expect the Bulls fans to slate their team. Opposition fans just don't accept defeats and put it down to the opposition being good. Every game that your team loses, whoever you support, it is due to yor team playing poorly, that's how fans work.
I have no issues with that mentality from the Bulls fans, as they were poor, and they deserve stick from their fans, just like Wire fans gave their team stick a few weeks back.
My issue was with pundits and neutrals, who won't give any credit where it is due. If Bradford were so poor, why haven't they had 58 stuck on them at home in any other game this year? Oh, it's because they only play that bad against us. There were some great RL tries last night, yet the commentary played a lot of them down, whereas had that been Saints or Leeds, they would have been creaming themselves.
Next time Saints rip a poor team to pieces, I will take no time at all in coming on here and quoting Eddie and Stevo talking about it being 'stuff of champions!'.
Give up, stop being pathetic. I was going for a Warrington win tonight and was happy that they ran up a decent score. The fact is, an 'outstanding' performance would have run up 70-80 points. That's not to take anything away from Warrington's 58, but I've seen Wire play far better and lose. Celtic would have got 40+ against Bradford tonight. I can understand that you are happy about getting such a big win, but that doesn't mean that the rest of us have to heap extortionate praise on what wasn't even a particularly clinical performance. One of the Warrington tries came after the ball had hit a Bradford player in the face. One came from the kick off FFS, they were totally inept.
I like the fact that 58 can't be considered 'outstanding' as you have decided that 70 or 80 should have been scored!
In the first half when we ripped Bradford to pieces, they weren't particularly inept, the comedy try was dire, but this was all after the game was won.