Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:39 pm  

Derwent wrote:

A few journos now reporting that the Wolfpack players have gone on strike over not being paid. They were meant to report for training and Covid-19 testing today and none have turned up.

Hi Derwent,

This was very likely as per the following from a player last week or so

“Enough’s enough,” “I can’t remember the last time we got paid (by TWP) on time. We haven’t been paid for the last month. The thing is the stress that it puts on the team and people in that organisation is madness. “They don’t give a ****. There’s a lot of people owed money. It’s just a disaster. I don’t think people understand the mental stress it puts on people. Some of the players with kids, mortgages, bills – I’m worried. It’s crazy.“We get told the money will be a week late. And then the week comes and no money, and then the next week and the next week. What gets us is we get told on the night the money’s coming and then it just doesn’t come.

“We’re not doing anything until we get paid,” he admitted. “We’ve had 16 weeks off and the competition starts in two weeks, what do they expect us to have one week of training? Can you imagine the injuries? It would be catastrophic.”“The stress that some people are under right now is crazy.“You’re only getting 50 per cent of your wage, in these circumstances that’s fair enough, you’ll cop that. But when you’re owed two months wages as well that’s a lot of ******* stress on you.“I’m just trying to get through it day by day.”

They aren't going to be the fall guys. RFL & SL need to take the whole thing on the chin it's both their faults.....

Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:39 pm  

Confirmed by the BBC. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/53474508

Confirmed by the BBC. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/53474508

Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:40 pm  

reffy wrote:

Gary Carter, The Sun, announces that Toronto will not play again in SL2020. Club Statement to follow.

Edit

Club confirms

I would have a bit of sympathy, but they can’t claim poverty after the contracts they have given out to players.
You can’t just decide when and when you don’t want to take part.
They should now be the relegated team (as they will have 0 points at the end of the year). They can’t expect to come back into SL for 2021.

Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:45 pm  

So they will pull out this season, but they say they still "fully intend to field a team in the 2021 season". As Tommy Cooper would say " Just Like That" Charming!!

Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:45 pm  

So who gets the 12th spot in SL if not Toronto in 2021. Championship unlikely to play this season.

Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:51 pm  

Presumably the SL will not relegate their Canadian branch but what penalty will they have imposed on them. It must be a points deduction at the very least. Makes you wonder if any other SL teams will now decide they can't afford to play the rest of the season.

Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:54 pm  

rugbyreddog wrote:

Presumably the SL will not relegate their Canadian branch but what penalty will they have imposed on them. It must be a points deduction at the very least. Makes you wonder if any other SL teams will now decide they can't afford to play the rest of the season.

Agrred, if Salford can manage it, then Toronto surely could, they just don't want to.

Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:56 pm  

bulls2487 wrote:

So who gets the 12th spot in SL if not Toronto in 2021. Championship unlikely to play this season.

Well nobody as it's most likely a few clubs may volunteer to take their place then how do you decide?

There was a suggestion SKY are furious about this, They pay for an Elite League and a full competition.

The players have a case that they were not contracted to a charade nor will they allow their own player welfare to be thrown to one side.

Sure someone can pick up the pieces if someone bankrolls it but how would a squad of say 24 championship players go, masquerading as TWP?

Like I say they probably need expunging like Streatham & Mitcham were in 1937. The game survived that. It would be big news then chip paper the day later.

After all the bluff and bluster, and ridiculous pretence from the American dream it's probaby time to take it on the chin and stop it all now and that includes Perez, and Wilby - but I dunno if there will be a cost.

Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:02 pm  

Toronto Wolfpack "fully intend to field a team in the 2021 season"


If the championship does not resume the 2020 season then the only fair outcome for Toronto in the 2021 season is League One with a twenty point deduction.

Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:06 pm  

The TW situation is hightly embarrassing, Canada is just too far IMO; the PRO 14 have 2 S African sides in, but they are based in S Africa, and there's only a couple of hours time difference, 5 hours it too many, 3 should be the maximum. Also just to say again, IMO we should bring back continuous live rucks, and get rid of the scrum, call the ruck a loose-scrum most of the time, and the tackle area or ruck on occasions. Ban being able to kick the ball in a forwards direction. IMO bring Leigh or Fev into SL next season, and bring back licensing.