Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:11 am  

Starbug wrote:

Their ' loss ' others will ' win ' , as I said, watch the wrestling if you dont like it

Will they?

Where are they then? Where are the Bradford, Wakefield and London fans going to watch RL now they arent going to Bradford, Wakefield and London?

Which promoted team is going to bring the 10-12k to the table Bradford did? The 6/7k Wakefield did?

Where's the games 'win'.

Is every sport without P+R, wrestling? Is the NRL wrestling?

The point of the top league is to be the biggest and best it can. If you dont like that, there is plenty of amateur RL for you to go watch.

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:48 pm  

Slight confusion about one of the crowds, Catalan v Leeds was given as 6,300 (looked much bigger) on SportingLife but 8,500 by Catalan themselves. Also, does anyone know the official attendance for Halifax v Batley? (stated as a clearly incorrect 300 on SportingLife and BBC)

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:49 pm  

JonB95 wrote:

Slight confusion about one of the crowds, Catalan v Leeds was given as 6,300 (looked much bigger) on SportingLife but 8,500 by Catalan themselves. Also, does anyone know the official attendance for Halifax v Batley? (stated as a clearly incorrect 300 on SportingLife and BBC)

1,798 according to League Express.

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:53 pm  

The 8500 figure seems to be being passed around between the clubs.

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:07 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

It is sport and there are winners and losers. No need for P+R in that though.

And as is being shown, it doesnt drive interest or attendances> it in fact does the opposite. The bottom 3 clubs, the ones currently affected by it are showing a clear and large drop in attendances.

The factors behind the drop in attendances at Wakey, Bulls and Broncos is nothing to do with P&R. I think it will have no impact on attendances either way until the end of the season when there might be one or two big deciding games.

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:14 pm  

whether or not the drops seen at these clubs is caused by P+R (and there has been a correlation to clubs attendances dropping when in a relegation fight during the last P+R failure) is irrelevant. What we can see, is that it is not driving an increase in attendance as was argued previously.

It was argued avoiding relegation gave clubs something to play for, that we would see clubs who would otherwise stagnate during that season see renewed interest and attendances because of the 'jeopardy' relegation created. This hasnt happened.

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Mon Mar 03, 2014 4:27 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

whether or not the drops seen at these clubs is caused by P+R (and there has been a correlation to clubs attendances dropping when in a relegation fight during the last P+R failure) is irrelevant. What we can see, is that it is not driving an increase in attendance as was argued previously.

It was argued avoiding relegation gave clubs something to play for, that we would see clubs who would otherwise stagnate during that season see renewed interest and attendances because of the 'jeopardy' relegation created. This hasnt happened.

This from a data set of 3 rounds.

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Mon Mar 03, 2014 4:38 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

This from a data set of 3 rounds.

There is time to change, but thats what the data is telling us now, and it goes against what those in favour of P+R were saying after round 1.

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:55 pm  

SL Round 3 attendances - comparison to same fixtures last year


Salford V St Helens in 2014 = 6,353
Salford V St Helens in 2013 = 3,248
% increase = +95.60%

Catalan V Leeds in 2014 = 8,500 *SUSPICIOUS ROUNDED CROWD NUMBER*
Catalan V Leeds in 2013 = 9,465
% decrease = -10.20%

Hull KR V Castleford in 2014 = 7,022
Hull KR V Castleford in 2013 = 6,489
% increase = +8.21%

Widnes V Huddersfield in 2014 = 5,577
Widnes V Huddersfield in 2013 = 5,173
% increase = +7.81%

Bradford V London in 2014 = 5,410 *LOWEST ODSAL CROWD EVER IN SL*
Bradford V London in 2013 = 7,148
% decrease = -24.31%

Warrington V Hull in 2014 = 10,276
Warrington V Hull in 2013 = 9,387
% increase = +9.47%

Wigan V Wakefield in 2014 = 11,703
Wigan V Wakefield in 2013 = 12,152
% decrease = -3.69%


Total Attendance in SL Round 3 = 54,841 (Avg: 7,834)
Total Attendance same fixtures last year = 53,062 (Avg: 7,580)
% increase = +3.35%

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4 out of 7 fixtures in Round 3 have shown an increase in attendance compared to the same SL fixtures last year.

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Championship Round 3 attendances - comparison to same fixtures last year


Sheffield V Barrow in 2014 = 900
Sheffield V Barrow in 2013 = 1,177
% decrease = -23.53%

Crusaders V Featherstone in 2014 = 1,418 *HIGHEST CROWD SINCE CRUSADERS REBIRTH*
Crusaders V Featherstone in 2013 = N/A

Doncaster V Dewsbury in 2014 = 744
Doncaster V Dewsbury in 2013 = 857
% decrease = -13.19%

Halifax V Batley in 2014 = 1,798
Halifax V Batley in 2013 = 1,778
% increase = +1.12%

Leigh V Whitehaven in 2014 = 2,006
Leigh V Whitehaven in 2013 = 1,523
% increase = +31.71%

Rochdale V Keighley in 2014 = 726
Rochdale V Keighley in 2013 = N/A

Workington V Swinton in 2014 = 663
Workington V Swinton in 2013 = 676
% decrease = -1.92%


Total Attendance for comparable games in Championship Round 3 = 6,111 (Avg: 1,222)
Total Attendance same fixtures last year = 6,011 (Avg: 1,202)
% increase = +1.66%

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2 out of 5 comparable fixtures in Round 3 have shown an increase in attendance compared to the same Championship fixtures last year.

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Championship 1 Round 1 attendances - comparison to same fixtures last year


Hemel V Hunslet in 2014 = 450
Hemel V Hunslet in 2013 = N/A

Oxford V London Skolars in 2014 = 435
Oxford V London Skolars in 2013 = 318
% increase = +36.79%

South Wales V Oldham in 2014 = 458
South Wales V Oldham in 2013 = 324
% increase = +41.36%

York V Gloucestershire in 2014 = 648
York V Gloucestershire in 2013 = N/A

Total Attendance for comparable games in Championship 1 Round 1 = 893 (Avg: 447)
Total Attendance same fixtures last year = 642 (Avg: 321)
% increase = +39.25%


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2 out of 2 comparable fixtures in Round 1 have shown an increase in attendance compared to the same Championship 1 fixtures last year.

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Total Attendance for comparable games in SL and Championships Round 3 = 61,845 (Avg: 4,418)
Total Attendance same fixtures last year = 59,715 (Avg: 4,265)
% increase = +3.59%

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Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:02 pm  

SL Attendances

Round 1 - 10.38% increase
Round 2 - 0.28% decrease
Round 3 - 3.35% increase

Total
2014 - 174,998
2013 - 166,496
% increase = +5.11%

Championship Attendances

Round 1 - 39.67% increase
Round 2 - 11.41% decrease
Round 3 - 1.66% increase

Total (for comparable fixtures only)
2014 - 19,673
2013 - 18,031
% increase = +9.11%

Championship 1 Attendances

Round 1 - 39.25% increase

Total (for comparable fixtures only)
2014 - 893
2013 - 642
% increase = +39.25%


Total (for comparable fixtures only)

2014 - 195,564
2013 - 185,169
% increase = +5.61%