Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:02 pm  

Could the league go ahead without them, giving each team a 'by' for the upcoming games? That way, the Championship could continue as is, and whoever win that is promoted. IF Toronto do not come back, so be it. Itv was always likely that they wold have been relegated in any case.

It is likely that they may continue, as the main reasons that they cannot continue are COVID19 restrictions and as a consequences VISA restrictions. Unless of course they get dispensation from the Home Office?

Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:03 pm  

mapleyther wrote:

The problem with Widnes is do they have a stable financial situation, and do they have a team capable of being competitive in SL? The same questions also apply to Leigh, but I think the answers are better.

I think TWP have gone and burnt their bridges with SL and the RFL and they won't be coming back from this. The hubris of the Sonny Bill Williams signing has come back to bite them in a massive way.

I think going part time has done Widnes the world of good. We’re still facing issues from the pandemic like every club right now, but we will come out of it fine. Over the years I’ve actually like Derek Beaumont’s contribution towards Leigh, take my hat off to him. But at the same he has also been very hot and cold. All in/all out approach. Kind of spat his dummy out and wrote a season or two off until Toronto we’re out the way.

I believe both Widnes and Leigh would be up there as top contenders, possibly even Toulouse if the rfl want to continue down the expansion route and gamble with two French teams, why not

Yeah I’d say Toronto definitely have to be relegated. Based on current issues and standings, giving them a 12 point deduction next season for me is a pointless exercise only to prolong the inevitable

Fingers crossed they find a way to restart the championship and the GF final rightfully should take TWP place. Otherwise it would come down to cherry picking your best suitable team from the leagues below.

Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:06 pm  

Oh dear oh dear . well i am not going to be one of those who says i told you so (but i did ) . Obviously the Virus has speeded things up but it was never going to work long term . Do i feel sorry for the players involved , not really , most were looking at easy money or topping up their pensions . We need to get over this as quick as possible and that means none of this oh we will be back next year rubbish . Just throw them out now , organize a small comp with clubs in the championship even a knock out cup and promote the winners for 2021

Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:07 pm  

The plastic pitch at Widnes is unsuitable for super league rugby.

Leigh were competitive during their recent season in Super league when they did not finish bottom.
They won six matches including putting fifty points on Wigan and beating St Helens, Warrington, Huddersfield, Salford and Hull.

Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:12 pm  

J7P1 wrote:

The plastic pitch at Widnes is unsuitable for super league rugby.

Leigh were competitive during their recent season in Super league when they did not finish bottom.
They won six matches including putting fifty points on Wigan and beating St Helens, Warrington, Huddersfield, Salford and Hull.

The pitch is fine. Especially since it has been upgraded and resurfaced.

Definitely a pointless argument going off previous super league campaigns. If a team does replace Toronto, they’ll be odds on to finish bottom and in the relegation spot, regardless of who it is

More worrying thing is, they had a game against Hull KR in two weeks. The season needs addressing and fast.

Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:27 pm  

nottinghamtiger wrote:

Club doles our massive contracts to high-profile players.
Club complains about salary cap.
Club complains about not being allowed to break salary cap.
Club asks for money from other clubs, despite said massive contracts to players who other clubs might have wanted to sign.
Club doesn’t pay suppliers.
Club doesn’t pay players.
Club decides they don’t want to play this season.

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Owner throws toy away
Owner looks to buy in at Melbourne storm instead.

Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:32 pm  

J7P1 wrote:

Leigh are the only Championship club with a stadium suitable for Super League and should replace Toronto.

Featherstone's stadium is unrecognisable now. It is better than Cas' and Wakefield's.

Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:34 pm  

ploinerrhino wrote:

Oh dear oh dear . well i am not going to be one of those who says i told you so (but i did ) . Obviously the Virus has speeded things up but it was never going to work long term

Given the owner is a $$Billionaire with major mining assets adding to that fortune daily he could have kept the whole thing going for the rest of his days. The virus speeded nothing up, the man knew when he was not wanted, the man found somewhere else to spend his money where he had his original ambitions i.e. in the NRL.

I think we are in danger of continuing to swallow anything they say, it's really time to stop. So you got TWP right....

Your thoughts on Ottawa and New York?

Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:40 pm  

Donnyman wrote:

Given the owner is a $$Billionaire with major mining assets adding to that fortune daily he could have kept the whole thing going for the rest of his days. The virus speeded nothing up, the man knew when he was not wanted, the man found somewhere else to spend his money where he had his original ambitions i.e. in the NRL.

I think we are in danger of continuing to swallow anything they say, it's really time to stop. So you got TWP right....

Your thoughts on Ottawa and New York?

My thoughts on Ottawa and New York .

I used to watch a T.V. show called Fantasy Island

Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:53 pm  

ploinerrhino wrote:

Oh dear oh dear . well i am not going to be one of those who says i told you so (but i did ) Do i feel sorry for the players involved , not really , most were looking at easy money or topping up their pensions .

It must be wonderful to have such vision, didn't know Toronto have a pension scheme though.