Re: Danny McGuire's disallowed try : Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:41 am  

Would a try of been given had the game not been on sky?

Re: Danny McGuire's disallowed try : Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:41 am  

The game tonight had mistakes and errors from all involved.

That's the RL game and how it is.

And the next one.

Re: Danny McGuire's disallowed try : Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:18 am  

The more worrying thing for me is that the Wigan player interviewed thoiught it was a try in real time, the ref wasn't sure but the linesman saw something in a micro second to go to the VR, but failed to see the most obvious forward pass right in front of him. Selective sight maybe.

Re: Danny McGuire's disallowed try : Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:39 am  

It wasn't the same linesman

Re: Danny McGuire's disallowed try : Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:42 am  

MrPhilb wrote:

It wasn't the same linesman

Keep the one who saw the McGuire incident and sack the other one then. It looked like the pillock we have tomorrow as referee.

Re: Danny McGuire's disallowed try : Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:48 am  

Steve Fox wrote:

Looked good to me.

The officials (and commentators) seemed obsessed by whether it struck the ground before he kicked it.

Clearly it did, so that makes it a drop kick ("a kick whereby the ball is dropped from the hands (or hand) and is kicked immediately it rebounds from the ground") rather than a punt, but still legal within the laws of the game.

But then again I imagine dozens of forward passes per game that the officials don't call, so maybe it's my eyes.

What utter bollox

So if we follow your logic then ever drop goal done in the history of the game was a knock on

Re: Danny McGuire's disallowed try : Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:58 am  

Starbug wrote:

What utter bollox

So if we follow your logic then ever drop goal done in the history of the game was a knock on

Eh?

I'm saying the exact opposite.

McGuire's wasn't a knock on because it was a drop kick.

It's video ref Ganson who is trying to outlaw drop goals not me.

Re: Danny McGuire's disallowed try : Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:02 am  

Steve Fox wrote:

Eh?

I'm saying the exact opposite.

McGuire's wasn't a knock on because it was a drop kick.

It's video ref Ganson who is trying to outlaw drop goals not me.

Yes it was , you are talking complete bollox , so either you are thick or are just attempting to wind up

A drop kick is meant to be kicked at the point the ball hits the ground , not after it has bounced

You know this as does everybody else

It was a knock on , simple as

Re: Danny McGuire's disallowed try : Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:24 am  

Starbug wrote:

Yes it was , you are talking complete bollox , so either you are thick or are just attempting to wind up

A drop kick is meant to be kicked at the point the ball hits the ground , not after it has bounced

You know this as does everybody else

It was a knock on , simple as

"a kick whereby the ball is dropped from the hands (or hand) and is kicked immediately it rebounds from the ground"

That's the definition of a drop kick in the laws of the game. Not simultaneous contact between ball, ground and boot but immediately after it has rebounded from the floor.

McGuire did that. The ball wasn't bouncing round the floor for seconds before he kicked it. He met the ball as it bounced from the pitch.

What happened was that Alibert asked the wrong question in saying "did it hit the ground?", wrong because drop kicks ARE allowed to hit the ground.

He should have asked if the ball was dropped deliberately rather than accidentally and did McGuire kick it soon enough to qualify as a drop kick.

As I recall Ganson didn't watch a single replay in real time in making his decision so how can he possibly have judged if the ball was "kicked immediately it rebounds from the ground" as required by the laws?

The fact is that, in the heat of the moment, the 3 officials seems to have had a collective brain fart and forgotten about the possibility of a drop kick and instead got confused with a situation where a ball is dropped accidentally by a player and must then be kicked before it hits the ground if not to be ruled a knock on.

Re: Danny McGuire's disallowed try : Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:27 am  

morleys_deckchair wrote:

lets be honest...wigan got all the decisions tonight......

Well your hardly being honest then are you. I understand fans like you have it in for Wigan, but it gets that bad that you have to find every decision that went for Wigan and ignore every one that went for Leeds and then claim the that Wigan got all the decisions. Why cant you watch a Wigan game without being biased and watch both teams rather than just picking up every little thing Wigan do. Im not for once saying Wigan didnt get some decisions, but so did Leeds.