Re: What will be of the Crusaders? : Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:31 pm  

dids858 wrote:

Rhyl is not a bad ground but the pitch seems small for RL and is no where near super league standard. Farrar road is about to be knocked down and bangor are moving into a 2,000 cap ground. Again no good for Super League. of course you have to think of the future. Cefn druids are in a new ground but its a little out of the way and of course no where near super league standard.

I think stability and getting a team in Championship One or Conference has to be the aim and not even think about SL for now. I am not sure what facilities are like at Wrexham RU club but that could be another short term option though a merger with Scorpions and Championship rugby next year could be the RFL's prefered option but a real kick in the nuts for those supporters in the North.

Re: What will be of the Crusaders? : Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:57 pm  

I'd like to see a resurrected Wrexham side but there is no value in the "Crusaders" moniker. I should be scrapped and never used again by any Welsh side.

Re: What will be of the Crusaders? : Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:23 pm  

Hedgehog King wrote:

I'd like to see a resurrected Wrexham side but there is no value in the "Crusaders" moniker. I should be scrapped and never used again by any Welsh side.

Indeed you should if you think RL should be resurrected in Wrexham.

Re: What will be of the Crusaders? : Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:10 pm  

PHIPPS wrote:

Indeed you should if you think RL should be resurrected in Wrexham.

Would you like to explain this, Barry? Please, go right ahead! I'll await your response with baited breath.

Re: What will be of the Crusaders? : Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:41 am  

PHIPPS wrote:

Indeed you should if you think RL should be resurrected in Wrexham.

Ooops, a tiny typo there.

I'd like to see a representative of every major town / city in Britain in the professional pyramid. Wrexham are a medium sized town so I'd like them to have a team. I don't think it will happen though.

Re: What will be of the Crusaders? : Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:35 am  

dids858 wrote:

Rhyl is not a bad ground but the pitch seems small for RL and is no where near super league standard. Farrar road is about to be knocked down and bangor are moving into a 2,000 cap ground. Again no good for Super League. of course you have to think of the future. Cefn druids are in a new ground but its a little out of the way and of course no where near super league standard.

See what I mean , we are told be happy to be a Championship club , then as soon as an expansion club is discussed , SL ,SL SL

Re: What will be of the Crusaders? : Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:46 am  

I really hope that when Dickie & Nige come knocking on the doors of the Championship leagues clubs and say that they would like to admit Crusaders then I hope the chairmen of those clubs stand firm and say no chance, we're refusing to play in any league with them in it.

Re: What will be of the Crusaders? : Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:59 am  

Derwent wrote:

I really hope that when Dickie & Nige come knocking on the doors of the Championship leagues clubs and say that they would like to admit Crusaders then I hope the chairmen of those clubs stand firm and say no chance, we're refusing to play in any league with them in it.

As much as I understand the injustice and anger felt towards the way things have turned out Derwent , we need more clubs , and if a club can be reborn from this fiasco , with guarantees there will not be any excessive attempts to push them forward until they can support themselves , then I'd welcome them into the Championships

I'd even consider letting the RFL give them extra funding for a set period as long as that was tied into a no promotion clause and was all out in the open

Re: What will be of the Crusaders? : Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:33 pm  

Starbug wrote:

As much as I understand the injustice and anger felt towards the way things have turned out Derwent , we need more clubs , and if a club can be reborn from this fiasco , with guarantees there will not be any excessive attempts to push them forward until they can support themselves , then I'd welcome them into the Championships

I'd even consider letting the RFL give them extra funding for a set period as long as that was tied into a no promotion clause and was all out in the open

Why no promotion clause? You dont think the RFL will be pushing this again in 3 years time do you

Re: What will be of the Crusaders? : Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:15 pm  

Starbug wrote:

As much as I understand the injustice and anger felt towards the way things have turned out Derwent , we need more clubs , and if a club can be reborn from this fiasco , with guarantees there will not be any excessive attempts to push them forward until they can support themselves , then I'd welcome them into the Championships

I'd even consider letting the RFL give them extra funding for a set period as long as that was tied into a no promotion clause and was all out in the open

Would such guarantees be worth the paper they're written on though ?

Let me make it clear, my problem isn't with the club themselves it is with the RFL who have orchestrated this whole shoddy affair and now are looking to the clubs that they allowed Celtic to trample all over in the first place to be their saviours and salvage something out of it to save face.

Effectively they would be asking Championship clubs to allow Crusaders in to be 'on hold' for another stab at SL, because we all know that as soon as practically possible the RFL would be manouvring them in that direction again. Any Championship club with ambition of their own would be mad to agree to it unless they had cast iron guarantees and an option to sue if favouritism is shown at any time in the future.