Re: End of season awards/MOS : Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:05 pm  

It's quite telling that Houghton has received other awards. It's also quite telling that Ellis has as well. They can't all support Hull FC. I am also certain Hull FC didn't pay for the awards.

Its within our British nature to be nice. You only have to look at the annual sports awards; Frank Bruno, Phil Taylor etc

These are just sympathy votes for a team that has improved because no one else has dominated. The Hull coach was minutes from the door after Widnes for underachievement with a team which has spent 'Big'. They won the CC, a cup that there relegated neighbours reached the final off some 12 months earlier. Since then they have reached there level which is not club of the year nor coach of the year standard. Player of the year I have no issues with.

Re: End of season awards/MOS : Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:27 pm  

On the plus side, the jealousy and bitterness on this thread does make a pleasant change from the usual Wigan and Leeds mud slinging.
Not knowing exactly when the votes were cast, perhaps some thought that Hull might still make the GF ??

Even so, they are THE most improved side in the comp.

The bitterness towards them is both funny and embarrassing in equal measure.

Re: End of season awards/MOS : Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:31 pm  

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:

140 something available votes from the humberside region, only 3 votes for chris hill,

There was an enormous difference stat wise in contribution to effort, performance and effectiveness, almost a 2:1 ratio between the players. Its as though the short list was compiled way back to the CC final date.


Chris Hill/Gareth Ellis: ...... Tackles: 920/577 ...... Missed Tackles: 17/37 ...... Tackle Busts: 38/26 ...... Carries: 486/255 ...... Metres: 3983/1819...

Re: End of season awards/MOS : Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:45 pm  

Sorry lads, you'l have to give all these awards back. We seem to have upset some delicate people.

Re: End of season awards/MOS : Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:05 pm  

Judder Man wrote:

There was an enormous difference stat wise in contribution to effort, performance and effectiveness, almost a 2:1 ratio between the players. Its as though the short list was compiled way back to the CC final date.


Chris Hill/Gareth Ellis: ...... Tackles: 920/577 ...... Missed Tackles: 17/37 ...... Tackle Busts: 38/26 ...... Carries: 486/255 ...... Metres: 3983/1819...

Ahh, the old "Opta Reasoning".

Re: End of season awards/MOS : Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:10 pm  

Exiled down south wrote:

Its within our British nature to be nice. You only have to look at the annual sports awards; Frank Bruno, Phil Taylor etc

These are just sympathy votes for a team that has improved because no one else has dominated. The Hull coach was minutes from the door after Widnes for underachievement with a team which has spent 'Big'. They won the CC, a cup that there relegated neighbours reached the final off some 12 months earlier. Since then they have reached there level which is not club of the year nor coach of the year standard. Player of the year I have no issues with.

Their*

Re: End of season awards/MOS : Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:12 pm  

Even so, they are THE most improved side in the comp.

And that's the award they should have got.

Re: End of season awards/MOS : Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:13 pm  

Exiled down south wrote:
Its within our British nature to be nice. You only have to look at the annual sports awards; Frank Bruno, Phil Taylor etc

These are just sympathy votes for a team that has improved because no one else has dominated. The Hull coach was minutes from the door after Widnes for underachievement with a team which has spent 'Big'. They won the CC, a cup that there relegated neighbours reached the final off some 12 months earlier. Since then they have reached there level which is not club of the year nor coach of the year standard. Player of the year I have no issues with.


Their*

Pedant alert. Your contribution is invaluable.

Re: End of season awards/MOS : Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:44 pm  

[quote="wire-quin"]http://www.sportinglife.com/rugby-league/news/article/480/10604799/danny-houghton-wins-super-league-man-of-steel-award

Clean sweep for Hull; Club, Coach, MOS not bad for a club that just hung on to the CC, finished nowhere in the LLS and didn't make the Grand Final.

This confirms the mediocrity that SL now accepts as standard.[/quote

By definitions, doesn't this make yours (and many other teams) distinctly below mediocre?

Oh,

Grow up.

Re: End of season awards/MOS : Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:53 pm  

If it isn't Leeds, Wigan or Warrington, it must be mediocre.