[Durham Giant]

Re: Widdop in bidding war : Tue Jan 01, 2019 7:07 pm  

homme vaste wrote:

Why would the difference in salary cap have anything to do with it with the marque player rule? Unless you are suggesting he would not be a marque player?

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WIDDOP EARNS AU $550 k. Pa plus about AU $350 k endorsements etc.

That is close to £500k per year.

Do you think Moran would spend £500k on one player (even if only £150k is SC) and then have to pay other players enough to stay at Wire.

I don’t

As good as he is he is no Thurston Lockyer or Johns. He would not be enough to transform Wire or any other team without the need for extra players. Spending £500 would be a waste. Moran is not too daft to know that.

Re: Widdop in bidding war : Tue Jan 01, 2019 7:24 pm  

Durham Giant wrote:

WIDDOP EARNS AU $550 k. Pa plus about AU $350 k endorsements etc.

That is close to £500k per year.

Do you think Moran would spend £500k on one player (even if only £150k is SC) and then have to pay other players enough to stay at Wire.

I don’t

As good as he is he is no Thurston Lockyer or Johns. He would not be enough to transform Wire or any other team without the need for extra players. Spending £500 would be a waste. Moran is not too daft to know that.

So out of interest what do you think Leeds are paying for Merrin? 750 K salary with multiple offers from the NRL and would rather not come over here according to Wayne Bennett... And FWIW yes I do think Moran would pay 500k for Widdop.

Re: Widdop in bidding war : Tue Jan 01, 2019 8:00 pm  

vastman wrote:

No it isn't, he's nothing special IMO either.

Agree with this. Is he REALLY worth a bidding war? Nah.

Re: Widdop in bidding war : Tue Jan 01, 2019 8:03 pm  

Durham Giant wrote:

WIDDOP EARNS AU $550 k. Pa plus about AU $350 k endorsements etc.

That is close to £500k per year.

Do you think Moran would spend £500k on one player (even if only £150k is SC) and then have to pay other players enough to stay at Wire.

I don’t

As good as he is he is no Thurston Lockyer or Johns. He would not be enough to transform Wire or any other team without the need for extra players. Spending £500 would be a waste. Moran is not too daft to know that.

He was contracted to come to Warrington until a neck injury stopped him from playing, so I'm pretty confident Moran would be able to find the cash for Widdop.
On what facts do you base this argument on? John's was lined up, so what would be different here?
Seems to me you don't want Widdop to come to SL, and will find any spurious reason just to say "he isn't coming, and I told you so".

Re: Widdop in bidding war : Tue Jan 01, 2019 8:24 pm  

MorePlaymakersNeeded wrote:

He was contracted to come to Warrington until a neck injury stopped him from playing, so I'm pretty confident Moran would be able to find the cash for Widdop.
On what facts do you base this argument on? John's was lined up, so what would be different here?
Seems to me you don't want Widdop to come to SL, and will find any spurious reason just to say "he isn't coming, and I told you so".

What year was that Johns was lined up and what was the difference in Salary Caps between NRL and SL?

Re: Widdop in bidding war : Tue Jan 01, 2019 8:41 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

What year was that Johns was lined up and what was the difference in Salary Caps between NRL and SL?

I was gonna ask the same thing, I bet the disparity in wages back then was far different to now. From the difference in exchange rates, which won't it have been around the 3 dollars to £1 era? to the huge increases the NRL have got every new TV deal since those days, it must be night and day.

Personally, I think he could come back home if the deal is right and everything he says about wanting to finish his career playing in SL and being homesick and wanting to be closer to relatives etc is true. But I gotta admit a part of me does think that he'll end up staying there.

Re: Widdop in bidding war : Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:32 pm  

Salary cap makes no difference with the marquee rule. I've stated on another thread that there's no SoO or playiing for Australia to keep him NRL, as there would be with an Australian.
All the talk that there's no SL club with the cash for one player is just plain incorrect. As Shifty Cat has posted above he may well stay in Oz, but because he wants to, not because of money.

[Durham Giant]

Re: Widdop in bidding war : Tue Jan 01, 2019 11:58 pm  

homme vaste wrote:

So out of interest what do you think Leeds are paying for Merrin? 750 K salary with multiple offers from the NRL and would rather not come over here according to Wayne Bennett... And FWIW yes I do think Moran would pay 500k for Widdop.

Leeds are not paying all his wages. He is being subbed by Penrith

Re: Widdop in bidding war : Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:06 am  

Cokey wrote:

Then Wakey sign him and you change your mind.

If Wakey signed him I’d be amazed and delighted - he’s a good player and better than what we have. So what? That still doesn’t make him the world beater some are making him out to be does it.

Put it another way, I’m happy we have David Fifita but it doesn’t make him Andrew does it?

Truth is that despite the ludicrous golden boot this year SL has few if any world beaters and Widdop won’t change that.

Re: Widdop in bidding war : Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:12 am  

Durham Giant wrote:

What a stupid thing to say. What is the salary cap in Australia.
How much richer are the australian clubs

The highest paid players in the SL are nowhere near the highest paid in Australia.

Even if Moran or Davy splash the cash the chances of him getting more than he would in Australia are minuscule

You can’t be this daft surely.

You’re right and that was my point. If Widdop was all he’s cracked up to be then no SL club could win his signature. The idea he is coming to SL for ulturistic reasons is utterly ludicrous unless you’re eight years old.

So something don’t add up do it? He’s lost his selling power in the NRL for some reason - my guess is he’s now seen as past it.