[Sadfish]

Re: Australia and NZ withdraw from world cup : Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:49 pm  

You can link them, fine, but going on about them is for the Sin Bin.

Crack on.

Re: Australia and NZ withdraw from world cup : Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:20 pm  

Do it without Oz and NZ!

And announce it asap!

Invitational squads, replacement countries, byes - who cares. Just host it! If Oz/NZ change their mind within reasonable time then so be it but don't hang around waiting for them.

The world cup is bigger than them and too important to postpone/cancel - regardless of what they might think.

Re: Australia and NZ withdraw from world cup : Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:37 pm  

MillennialRhino wrote:

Do it without Oz and NZ!

And announce it asap!

Invitational squads, replacement countries, byes - who cares. Just host it! If Oz/NZ change their mind within reasonable time then so be it but don't hang around waiting for them.

The world cup is bigger than them and too important to postpone/cancel - regardless of what they might think.

I believe that something close to 67% of the players at RLWC 2013 came from Australia or New Zealand.....the NRL clubs have supported the ARL/NZRL stance...so where are we going to get the players to play in this RLWC?

Will fans and more importantly sponsors expecting to see the best players in the world still pay to sponsor or watch scotland v Italy in Newcastle when the game will be at best League 1 standard........Without the NRL players England will probably face PNG at Emirates in London......whilst whomever gets through the other side of the draw will await to be pummelled in the final.....all broadcast on BBC to a million viewers who will notice the swathes of empty seats.....
...and then you'll have the fall out......probably a loss making cup that could well cripple the game in the UK for decades.

Sorry, but as much as I abhor the decision made by the ANZACS, they have killed this stone dead!.....I'd cancel the whole thing and start planning for France 2025.

Re: Australia and NZ withdraw from world cup : Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:41 pm  

orangeman wrote:

I believe that something close to 67% of the players at RLWC 2013 came from Australia or New Zealand.....the NRL clubs have supported the ARL/NZRL stance...so where are we going to get the players to play in this RLWC?

Will fans and more importantly sponsors expecting to see the best players in the world still pay to sponsor or watch scotland v Italy in Newcastle when the game will be at best League 1 standard........Without the NRL players England will probably face PNG at Emirates in London......whilst whomever gets through the other side of the draw will await to be pummelled in the final.....all broadcast on BBC to a million viewers who will notice the swathes of empty seats.....
...and then you'll have the fall out......probably a loss making cup that could well cripple the game in the UK for decades.

Sorry, but as much as I abhor the decision made by the ANZACS, they have killed this stone dead!.....I'd cancel the whole thing and start planning for France 2025.

The aus/nz/nrl players want to play, so let them come and play. The world cup relies on players, not the NRL nor any one country's inward looking administrators.

Re: Australia and NZ withdraw from world cup : Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:54 pm  

And frankly, there are plenty of teams worth watching that aren't auz/nz.

All the various pacific islands, PNG, england and france alone = more than enough to have a decent competition and get as much RL on the BBC as possible. Getting RL on BBC is the single most important thing in my eye. RL is doing gangbusters in south hemisphere and needs more free-tv/BBC exposure in the NH.

Don't forget, this event is not just mens either - its also womens and wheelchair. They don't rely on NRL say so at all - and will also hopefully add to BBC being RL-dominated for a long period of time in a bit of a sport vacuum.

The time is now - all plans have been made and will be very very difficult to delay by a year - if they let NRL clubs/etc bully them out of doing it now then NRL clubs/etc will simply continue to be bullies.

And do you really think any UK/global neutral will care that whichever Oz star isn't there? Of course not. Watch the olympics now - does anyone know who anyone is until they start watching? No! Does anyone care who is missing that day due to injury/doping bans//Russian bans/boycotts/covid/whatever reason? No!

The sport needs to prove that it is bigger than the domestic game in one country.

Re: Australia and NZ withdraw from world cup : Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:12 pm  

MillennialRhino wrote:

The aus/nz/nrl players want to play, so let them come and play. The world cup relies on players, not the NRL nor any one country's inward looking administrators.

The NRL clubs pay the players wages and insurance.....mot sure about you, but if one of my staff were to ignore my instructions to not put themselves in harms way or play games and get injured, I'd expect them to either adhere or resign.

MillennialRhino wrote:

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The sport needs to prove that it is bigger than the domestic game in one country.

Good luck with that...

Re: Australia and NZ withdraw from world cup : Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:45 pm  

Pick the NZ/Aus players based in Europe.

Re: Australia and NZ withdraw from world cup : Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:07 am  

Jack Burton wrote:

Pick the NZ/Aus players based in Europe.

There aren't enough of them.

Re: Australia and NZ withdraw from world cup : Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:13 am  

happyjack wrote:

There aren't enough of them.

Hammersmith Hills Hoists would probably win it

[Sadfish]

Re: Australia and NZ withdraw from world cup : Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:01 am  

80 days to the world cup and all we hear from the RLWC committee is how badly done to they are and nothing of the tournament or how it is going ahead or cancelled.

Just over 2 months to kick off and no one has a clue if it going ahead.