I would have said not performing to your potential in the big games, for what ever reason.

It helps to know their meaning before you use them, otherwise their usage is what we might call "incongruous".


Then perhaps you could specify these words and phrases, by quoting me, and explain my incorrect usage, thus demonstrating to us all your own superior understanding of their meaning.

So if the best team is wiped out by a virus the night before the game, and an entire under 21 side has to play the GF instead, and loses, have that said team 'bottled it'?


Anyway we are going away from the point. The 5th placed team winning the GF has IMO, reduced the regular season to no more than a series of friendlies, the players know that and simply won't be able to give their all next season meaning we will have a sub standard competition.

You could argue the season we have just had has already shown that this has already set in.

I used to say to my football supporting mates that the biggest difference between RL and football was that when 2 big teams play in RL, you nearly always get a cracking game, when 2 big teams play in football, you nearly always get a boring game.

Think of the clashes between Wigan, Wire, Saints and Leeds last season. Was there one good game? I don't think there was, and i think its because the teams are not as bothered about winning in the regular season, 'as long as they win when it matters' i.e the playoffs therefore the regular season does not matter anymore and we are wasting our money going.

Without even giving it much thought, Leeds vs Wire and Wigan vs Wire were excellent. But I understand that doesn't fit your narrative.

Your attempt to be smart didnt quite work there did it. You have simply said the same thing I did. Have you really descended to "I know you are, you said you are, so what am I"?

I have already done that for you once, you ignored it, i assume because you knew you had been caught out. You have also been quite adamant that 'too easy' and 'not hard enough' arent synonyms, which would lead me to believe you dont know what those phrases mean.

Leeds v Wire wasn't excellent.

I remember the game clearly as Cullen and Hemming were harping on about the coaches won't be bothered who picks up the 2 points in this game as its so early in the season.
I think a Leeds player made his debut with about 10 mins to go. Phil Clarke said something along the lines of ' you may be surprised that mcDermott have given someone thier debut with 10 mins to go in such a big game, but you must note that if he makes a mistake in this game and costs Leeds 2 points it doesn't really matter as long as when he plays when it matter in the playoffs he doesn't make that same mistake'

I remember coming on this very forum fuming and venting my disgust.

No Leeds player made their debut against Warrington. And if you've been getting your understanding of Rugby League on what, God forbid, Phil Clarke, says then that would probably explain quite a lot.

You are all idiots

Why the heck has this destroyed SL and made it a series of friendlies

There is 10 teams in this comp that have loyal fans that turn up every week for years and year realistically knowing they won't win any silverware , but they still come to watch there team full of proud RL players who try win every single game....and you guys saying they don't (even though you have no idea what goes on in the changing rooms of SL) doesn't make it so

And DOUGY FFS

In all sports games early on in the season always have comments about "long way to go" "Nobody wins the league in August or Christmas" (In football) etc.... do you expect players to weep after every loss they ever have?

In the CC once the 2 teams get to the final they should play out a league 22 games home and away to see who finishes top because ''da best team is the team dat finishes top'' aint that right dougy?

Actually, it was I who said that you were using words and phrases in a way that suggested you didn't know what they meant, then you attempted to say the same thing about me. The descent was yours, yet you blatantly try to pretend it was mine; how typical. Pretend is about all you've done through the entire thread!


What I said was "it was hard, but not hard enough to reflect their standing in the league" which you attempted to misrepresent as "Leeds had it easy" because that was the only argument you had a response for. Strawmannery is all you know, it seems. But still, if you're that convinced, you can provide that quote eh?

In that situation you wouldnt expect them to win though would you.


This season was no different to last season, which was no different to the year before. The NRL has provided winners from lower down the league, they had a grand final which was 4th v 8th only two years ago, Last years superbowl winner had a lower winning percentage than Leeds did, in 2008 New York won the superbowl with a 62.5% winning percentage, against a New England side who lost only one game all season which was the superbowl. Were the regular season for those competitions pointless? Are the NFL and NRL substandard competition.

You do realise it is all there for people to read dont you? Lets leave it to them.

Do you really think people are that stupid? Do you really think that dropping the 'too' part of the sentence 'too easy' was subtle enough to catch anyone at all out. Once again, 'it wasnt hard enough' and 'it was too easy' are the same thing.