Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:35 pm  

craig hkr wrote:

The mismanagement predates the pandemic.

I'm not against expansion but it must have solid foundations. This was a billionaires whim made real by his providing such financial incentives and guarantees that literally were too good to be true and to gloss over the very real logistical facts that made a Canadian side nigh on ridiculous. The fact he is now unwilling to keep throwing his dollars down the gurgler leads to his forcing of the issue. As i said earlier Mcdermotts views and for that matter Woods and Rimmers will be worth hearing.

Correct - this is nowt to do with any Pandemic. Correct - Argyle said he would always fund the club and not look to take English TV revenues, his batman Perez said he would find TWP an NATV deal, but never did.

Nobody's "views" are worth jack SHHH. The facts are they came into the league on the basis of permanent self funding and now Argyle doesn't want to self fund anymore. Even though he can.

Once again he knows TWP doesn't work no matter how much he spends on players and marquees
Once again he knows Superleague bosses don't like or want him or his phoney club
Once again they are not a model for anyone to follow given he's blown £12,000,000 to get nowhere

McDermott, Rimmer Lenegan and Wood will spout some sort of pre-prepared PR garbage, so no they won't say anything "interesting" they won't say what they really think. Wood won't admit that he let them in at the start and in the end he said they should have started their own league . Rimmer won't say much against them as he ridiculously flagged through two more even phonier clubs probably knowing TWP's days were numbered.

All we have had since 2017 is garbage about how wonderful TWP were with nothing said against them by anyone in the game here until last autumn when McManus said Toulouse were a better choice than TWP because of the inability of the latter to develop players and play home and away through the full season.

Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:37 pm  

Can someone explain to me why Toronto aren’t eligible for the central funding ?

Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:41 pm  

Pats plastic pitch wrote:

Can someone explain to me why Toronto aren’t eligible for the central funding ?

They do not qualify because they are a guest club and not full members

They do not qualify to take money from SKY who pay for an English league to attract English Subscribers

They said they would fund TWP themselves without taking any English SKY money

They said they would get their own North American TV deal.

Perez said that when they got it it would be a big one and of course in turn they would not share their TV deal here.

There you go that's it in full..........

Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:49 pm  

The Devil's Advocate wrote:

I appreciate all that, but that doesn't give him the right to just sack off the season,

Don't know why your swallowing the bait about how Argyle has all his $Billions tied up in investments and couldn't find the money for the extra costs. As I understand it he's unable to fill his car up, and hasn't been able to give the missus her housekeeping for weeks .....

You've been hooked. Beware the Fisherman....

Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:43 am  

craig hkr wrote:

That's just a bonus... I'm reading lengthy posts all over the place still making a case for the Magic Bean salesmen from Toronto.
That meeting on Thursday where Hunter makes his multiple good reasons for Toronto to play in SL 2021 plain for the chairmen to see should take all of 5 seconds to ponder then laugh him out of the UK.
Saying this the same should have happened on initial meeting when Toronto enquired. I honestly thought it was a wind up when heard about the possibility?
Toronto have took the proverbial in so many ways but it's a mess of our own making as was obviously doomed

So you would be happy for Super League to prove that they don't want investment, don't welcome investment and are quite happy to turn away investment?

Who and why would anyone want to approach Super League after that?

But you and a few others on here would be quite happy with that outcome.

Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:49 am  

The Silent H wrote:

So you would be happy for Super League to prove that they don't want investment, don't welcome investment and are quite happy to turn away investment?

Who and why would anyone want to approach Super League after that?

But you and a few others on here would be quite happy with that outcome.

Indeed, the flat cappers want to keep the game as a parochial little sport in the North, they'd be rid of Catalans if they could!

Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:39 am  

Donnyman wrote:

They do not qualify because they are a guest club and not full members

They do not qualify to take money from SKY who pay for an English league to attract English Subscribers

They said they would fund TWP themselves without taking any English SKY money

They said they would get their own North American TV deal.

Perez said that when they got it it would be a big one and of course in turn they would not share their TV deal here.

There you go that's it in full..........

So do Catalans not get any money either - pretty sure they’re not English

Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:41 am  

Donnyman wrote:

McDermott, Rimmer Lenegan and Wood will spout some sort of pre-prepared PR garbage, so no they won't say anything "interesting" they won't say what they really think. Wood won't admit that he let them in at the start and in the end he said they should have started their own league . Rimmer won't say much against them as he ridiculously flagged through two more even phonier clubs probably knowing TWP's days were numbered.

In one of the other threads you wrote that Lenagan had organised an all-English Super League and broadcast deal for 2022.

Here you suggest that Lenagan won't be truthful.

Why involve Rimmer when it is a problem for Elstone,who you never mention,and,apparently,other Super League club owners?

Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:49 am  

ColD wrote:

So do Catalans not get any money either - pretty sure they’re not English

Catalans get money from their own deal afaik?

Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:58 am  

Donnyman wrote:

They do not qualify because they are a guest club and not full members

They do not qualify to take money from SKY who pay for an English league to attract English Subscribers

They said they would fund TWP themselves without taking any English SKY money

They said they would get their own North American TV deal.

Perez said that when they got it it would be a big one and of course in turn they would not share their TV deal here.

There you go that's it in full..........

There seems to be a contradiction here.
They agreed not to take any sky funding because they (wrongly) thought they would do better by securing their own N. American deal.
Nothing to do with being a "guest" club.

Catalan, the other "guest" club, still seem to be taking a slice of the pie.
Although their TV deal was scuppered by Elstone asking for "more" so, not really their fault ??