: Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:43 pm  

tb wrote:

You've answered your own question. And the sooner we return to the pre99 status quo and play internationals there as well as the Cup Final the better.

Tbf i've always thought of Wembley as our national stadium and i think they should house the Internationals there but is it really 10 years since we last played and international there? That’s appalling!

: Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:46 pm  

No.

1. Funding the thing is a bit of an issue.
2. We tend to play our internationals in a series of three or more. It would be pointless playing Australia or New Zealand for three weeks at the same venue.
3. The venues that we do use are currently ideal in terms of capacity, (presumably) cost and location. We've got Wembley, Old Trafford, Elland Road and the COM, all in England, all with capacities of 40k+ that we regularly use - what is wrong this those venues?
4. Modern sports venues (successful ones at least) are open seven days a week, 365 days a year - what over events do you propose to keep the venue profitable?
5. I'm not that keen on the idea of a "National Stadium" anyway, regardless of sport. The England football team should be for all to see, not just 80,000 cockneys. IMO, it was much better when the England football team played at venues across the country (even if they did tend to 'reside' at Old Trafford towards the end of their road-trip).

: Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:48 pm  

He's just after a new stadium for the ' pies '

: Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:50 pm  

only cos the pies don't have a stadium
*cough* athletic *cough*

: Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:51 pm  

We barely have an 'international game' so I can see no need to be building a 50k seater stadium to be used 3 times a year. Or 10 at the most.

: Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:53 pm  

bramleyrhino wrote:

No.

1. Funding the thing is a bit of an issue.
2. We tend to play our internationals in a series of three or more. It would be pointless playing Australia or New Zealand for three weeks at the same venue.
3. The venues that we do use are currently ideal in terms of capacity, (presumably) cost and location.
4. Modern sports venues (successful ones at least) are open seven days a week, 365 days a year - what over events do you propose to keep the venue profitable?
5. I'm not that keen on the idea of a "National Stadium" anyway, regardless of sport. The England football team should be for all to see, not just 80,000 cockneys. IMO, it was much better when the England football team played at venues across the country.

Fair enough like i said it was a point i'd like to know other peoples opinions on and you've definatly summed the reasons up for not doing it.

I just see the success that say RU has with Twickers and it seems like we will never get to that level fi we keep moving for place to place.

Although the players aren't good enough I know, one day we will have a ‘golden generation’ which would be greatly enhanced if we played in a our own stadium.

Also the internationals would work as we wouldn’t be playing the same team every week if it was a tri nations tournament.

: Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:57 pm  

Boris wrote:

We barely have an 'international game' so I can see no need to be building a 50k seater stadium to be used 3 times a year. Or 10 at the most.

good point actually, maybe it's the lack of any serious worldly competition that hinders the building of a home to rugby league

Lets have a stadium for

Great Britain v Australia
Great Britain v New Zealand
Australia v New Zealand
England v Australia
England v New Zealand


pointless really when you actually sit down and think
Lets just ground share Twickers and call it the home of rugby

Re: Time for a national RL stadium? : Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:00 pm  

thepriestman85 wrote:

Would it be feasible or could we afford as a sport to build say a 50k stadium for the sole use of RL?

No.

thepriestman85 wrote:

Almost the RL equivalent of Twickenham in RU, Wimbledon in Tennis, Lord in Cricket or Wembley for Football?

Wimbledon is not in anyway equivalent to any of those other sports. And Lords is just one of several county grounds in both day-to-day use and for hosting internationals.

thepriestman85 wrote:

We are currently gypsies using all different stadiums for different events and the cost of that can’t be that cheap either can it?

Renting a stadium for a one off event is a lot cheaper than the cost of building and maintaining one. It also gives us greater flexibility, and the ability to play different stadium owners against each other so they cannot afford to over price themselves.

thepriestman85 wrote:

I’d love to see us get a proper base where we can build some history and have memorable club and international matches.

We have managed to create quite a lot of history without any trouble for the past hundred plus years. A new stadium is going to make that any better.

thepriestman85 wrote:

I guess once we have somewhere like that it could be used for other events such as Athletics & Concerts maybe?

Could? Maybe? It would need to be! No sport can afford to have a stadium sitting empty for around 360 days per year. This is the business model of the Twckenham's and Wembley's you seem to want to emulate.

thepriestman85 wrote:

Although the initial costs would be great wouldn’t it benefit RL in the long term?

No, the only benefit would be for people who seem to think owing a stadium is something to boast about. It would bring no practical benefits at all.

thepriestman85 wrote:

Is it a pipe dream tho?

Thankfully, yes.

saint billy wrote:

Thats the one thing i don't think should ever change. The Challenge Cup final should always be at Wembley, its tradition and should stay that way.

No. The cup final should be held in places like Halifax, Leeds, and Cardiff, but not Wembley.

Michael.

: Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:05 pm  

YED79 wrote:

Lets just ground share Twickers and call it the home of rugby

Burn him!
I prefer wembley any day

Re: Time for a national RL stadium? : Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:10 pm  

mav wrote:

No, the only benefit would be for people who seem to think owing a stadium is something to boast about.

It is something to boast about if it works for the sport who own it. Can't see how it can't be?

I agree with the other points you made apart from this one and the CC final but imo world class stadiums like Twickenham are something to boast about since it was updated and the fact they fill it for all international games with tickets going for £85 each it must make them some revenue as well.

Also if your playing in a comp like the 6 nations it's a massive plus point if teams don't like the play their as it gives you and advantage doesn't it?