Re: widdop : Sat Oct 23, 2010 6:27 pm  

If he didn't get injured, Richard Owen would have been the fullback imo.

Doesn't Cudjoe play fullback too? Apart from 1 drop Widdop didn't look that bad today anyway, certainly an improvement over Briscoe, Atkins was the biggest joke out there today.

Re: widdop : Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:16 pm  

Sorry but for me widdop was b.poor today as was atkins and ellis. We need more forward power next game, but with mcnamara as coach I don't expect anything more than that showing today!

Re: widdop : Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:30 pm  

Gaslight wrote:

If he didn't get injured, Richard Owen would have been the fullback imo.

Doesn't Cudjoe play fullback too? Apart from 1 drop Widdop didn't look that bad today anyway, certainly an improvement over Briscoe, Atkins was the biggest joke out there today.

Tomkins should be the England fullback. But the fact that Eastmond, Pryce, McGuire and Sinfield are all injured determines that he needs to be in the halves.

Re: widdop : Sat Oct 23, 2010 8:15 pm  

saint billy wrote:

Westwood wasn't our best player, James Graham was, although he had a decent game.

Tomkins
Goulding
Atkins
Shenton
Goulding
Brown
Robinson
Graham
Roby
Fielden
Westwood
Ellis
O'Loughlin

Burgess
Crabtree
Griffin
Harrison.

Thats what i'd go for. A massive bench, with Burgess and Harrison able to cover anywhere in the pack except hooker, with Crabtree and Griffin rotating at prop. Also, if injuries occur to the backs, then the likes of Ellis or O'Loughlin can slot in if needs be. Joel Tomkins was rubbish when he come on, IMO, and doesn't deserve to be picked on the bench.

Agree with you about J Tomkins. Been dire this week and last. Drop him and pick Harrison.

Re: widdop : Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:03 pm  

Bring in Clubby. Let the big boy surprise a few people.

Re: widdop : Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:04 pm  

Nozzy wrote:

saint billy wrote:

Westwood wasn't our best player, James Graham was, although he had a decent game.

Tomkins
Goulding
Atkins
Shenton
Goulding
Brown
Robinson
Graham
Roby
Fielden
Westwood
Ellis
O'Loughlin

Burgess
Crabtree
Griffin
Harrison.

Thats what i'd go for. A massive bench, with Burgess and Harrison able to cover anywhere in the pack except hooker, with Crabtree and Griffin rotating at prop. Also, if injuries occur to the backs, then the likes of Ellis or O'Loughlin can slot in if needs be. Joel Tomkins was rubbish when he come on, IMO, and doesn't deserve to be picked on the bench.

Agree with you about J Tomkins. Been dire this week and last. Drop him and pick Harrison.

Tell you what Joel must really have rubbed some opposition fans up the wrong way this year especially a few bitter Saints fans looking at some of this posts.

Joel Tomkins - Ben Westwood

Hit ups 3 (22m) - 5 (34m)
Average 7.3 - 6.8
Offloads 1 - 1
Tackles 15 -17
Missed tackles 0 - 1
Errors 0 - 0
Penaltys conceded 0 - 1

Considering Joel wasnt on the field nearly aslong as Westwood who seems to be getting talked up on here as one of the only players to show up i think Joel's stats and performance stands up quite well tbf. Im not trying to put Westwood down as i thought he played well im just using him as an example. Can someone give me a logical explaination on why J.Tomkins is getting dogged ? Or is it a simple case that he ruffled a few two many feathers this year on his way to getting his winners medal.

Re: widdop : Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:07 pm  

I'd like to ask people what Joel did wrong?

Got about 30 mins. was strong in D and had a massive hand in our second try.

Re: widdop : Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:08 pm  

The Curtism wrote:

Bring in Clubby. Let the big boy surprise a few people.

Surprise people by how shocking he is at tackling ? Worst in superleague aint he ?

Re: widdop : Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:13 pm  

DP_wwrlfc wrote:

Tell you what Joel must really have rubbed some opposition fans up the wrong way this year especially a few bitter Saints fans looking at some of this posts.

I was waiting for a Wiganer to come up with this. It has nothing to do with playing for Wigan what so ever, i just didn't notice him do anything. The stats do look fine, but stats don't always tell the full story but frm what i watched, he didn't have any impact and to be honest, i didn't notice him on the field. Also, Tomkins came on when we were starting to play reasonably well, so we were on the front foot for a majority of when he was on the field.

Tomkins has shown this season he is a very good player with a lot of potential, first half of the season especially. However, i wasn't impressed with him today, and it has nothing to do with being bitter, or being a Saints fan.

Re: widdop : Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:16 pm  

Newton-Le-willows-Warrior wrote:

I'd like to ask people what Joel did wrong?

Got about 30 mins. was strong in D and had a massive hand in our second try.

I hardly noticed him to be honest and he didn't have any impact, IMO. If i'm honest, i haven't being very impressed with him for the second half of the season, the first half of the season he showed a great amount of promise though and obviously has plenty of potential but i wasn't impressed with him.