Re: Tonga vs Australia : Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:06 am  

Fishermanscap wrote:

Give over Lolohea had a great game, just accept that Leeds may have made a mistake letting a quality player go too soon.

Nobody was watching a different game to you they were actually watching the game!

What did he do that qualifies it as a great game?

Re: Tonga vs Australia : Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:45 am  

the artist wrote:

How have hull pulled off the Manu mau signing? He's looking like one of the world's best second rows at the moment

Best second row forward for Tonga was Ben Murdoch Masila and for Fiji Kikau was outstanding.

Re: Tonga vs Australia : Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:28 am  

Yeah you can't talk about world class second rowers without mentioning Kikau. He's on another level imo.

I thought BMM was outstanding for Tonga though. If he didn't play the full 80 he must have come close. Some devastating runs with ball in hand and he threw his weight around in defence too.

Australia were bashed around the park in that second half, I loved it! Perhaps this is the shot in the arm that the Aussies needed for them to actually start treating international RL with a bit more respect, who knows.

Re: Tonga vs Australia : Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:48 am  

puroresu_boy wrote:

Nobody cares if it wasnt sanctioned. The reality is Australia lost to Tonga. Its a huge story and no official sanction changes that. Tonga have beaten 3 tier one nations and whether one wants to call them rebels it doesn't really matter.

Trying to pour rain on their parade seems pretty sad. This sport needs stronger international nations. You think the mad celebrations in Tonga are in anyway diminished due to no official sanction? Australia last lost to a minor nation in 1978. That has just been changed and we should be loving it.

Absolutely correct. Plus NZ and Aus have for decades been raiding the South Sea islands, finding young talent and bringing them over to play junior rugby for their clubs, thus qualifying for Aus/NZ before they had any chance or even thought of representing their country of birth. If it's turning the other way just a little bit now that's good news.

Re: Tonga vs Australia : Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:15 am  

kobashi wrote:

Now available on catch up for guys who missed it.

I didn't think Sky did a catch up? I can never find anything when i look for it Gutted i missed this so i can't wait to watch it

Re: Tonga vs Australia : Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:45 am  

Or thane wrote:

I didn't think Sky did a catch up? I can never find anything when i look for it Gutted i missed this so i can't wait to watch it

The last couple of minutes are comical in the way the Aussies managed not to score after creating a 5 on 2 situation near the Tongan line. Probably still scratching their heads as to how they botched it up.

Re: Tonga vs Australia : Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:31 pm  

Freddie Miller. wrote:

The last couple of minutes are comical in the way the Aussies managed not to score after creating a 5 on 2 situation near the Tongan line. Probably still scratching their heads as to how they botched it up.

What a game, absolutely loved it. I love seeing the Aussies get smashed so this game was beautiful to watch. If BMM plays like that next year for us we'll be much much better for it.
Yeah they were completely rattled i'm surprised they didn't take the game at the end but i'm very glad they didn't

Re: Tonga vs Australia : Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:43 pm  

Asgardian13 wrote:

Absolutely correct. Plus NZ and Aus have for decades been raiding the South Sea islands, finding young talent and bringing them over to play junior rugby for their clubs, thus qualifying for Aus/NZ before they had any chance or even thought of representing their country of birth. If it's turning the other way just a little bit now that's good news.

1 Tongan born player in the current 21. Indisputable FACT. So your claim of "ANZAC SLAVE TRADERS' ghosting kids away to play for clubs is a myth.

Yes, Pacific Islanders flock to AU/Auckland in search of a better life and they do have families there, but the kids born to these immigrants aren't Tongan, Fijian, Samoan etc.....they are Australian or New Zealanders.

Again! Well done the Tongan invitational 13, but the reality is that RL in Tonga is on it 'arris and of the 21 squad players, maybe 2 could have expected a game for AU/NZ this weekend, the rest are 2nd tier NRL stars at International level.

Re: Tonga vs Australia : Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:53 am  

Polynesians are all about family, religion and culture in that order, and western notions of national patriotism is a fairly new concept for them.
A Tongan is a Tongan because his family is Tongan. It wouldn't matter if he was born and lived on Mars - he'd still be Tongan as long as that was where his family was.
The massive crowd that supported them would have only had a handful of current residents of Tonga, because people who live there are pretty poor, but all those who travelled from all over NZ, Australia and America were all Tongans. If you don't believe that, you should tell them. I think they'd take it badly.

Re: Tonga vs Australia : Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:25 pm  

roopy wrote:

Polynesians are all about family, religion and culture in that order, and western notions of national patriotism is a fairly new concept for them.
A Tongan is a Tongan because his family is Tongan. It wouldn't matter if he was born and lived on Mars - he'd still be Tongan as long as that was where his family was.
The massive crowd that supported them would have only had a handful of current residents of Tonga, because people who live there are pretty poor, but all those who travelled from all over NZ, Australia and America were all Tongans. If you don't believe that, you should tell them. I think they'd take it badly.

1. The 15k Tongan support came from South Auckland...well, 99.9% of it did.
2. The born to a tongan = you're a tongan debate is rubbish.......show them the 20k game money and they'll be whatever you want them to be.......
3. Play a game away from Auckland and see what you get.
4. The Tongan revolution is down to 1 player not agreeing with 2 players being unselected for snorting coke.....or am the only person to see this?
5. Tonga's rise isn't good for international RL as it shows what a sham we are in terms of eligibity rules. Half the squad have payed for other nations and only one was born in tonga.
6. Tonga RL at home (in Tonga) is a shambles.....

BTW. Polynesian Culture is as transient as any on the planet. The Rivalry between islands is fierce, except when there's money involved, then so long as you pay them, they will wear whatever shirt you want. That's not culture, that's commerce!