Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:34 pm  

JonB95 wrote:

You're missing out. can't beat the live product.
And no, but they are still up.

Missing nothing. 9 NRL games a year and a full season of local then regional comps in he amateur scene here. 2 games yesterday before Te pub for warriors dragons then sharks roosters......all I got in London was a dozen games a year

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:18 am  

JonB95 wrote:

You're missing out. can't beat the live product.
And no, but they are still up.

Are they?

Would you be willing to back that statement up with some actual evidence?

Reason I ask for the evidence is because when totalled up, none of the attendance figures published by the official Superleague website, the RFL website, Skysports, Loverugbyleague and Sportinglife show that SL attendances are up on last season. My attendance figures do not either.

Would you care to provide your total SL attendance figures in order to back up your assertion that SL attendances are currently up on last season?

I am particularly interested in your attendance figures for the following fixtures...
Round 1: Hull V Catalans
Round 3: Bradford V London, Catalans V Leeds
Round 6: Catalans V Huddersfield
Round 9: Warrington V Widnes

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:50 am  

RU average attendances down by about 500 per club on last season
Championship football down by about 1000 per club on last season
RL changing weekly, might be up but may well be down. TBC in October.

Anyone would think there was some kind of recession on or something..

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:56 am  

Shoe Shine Johnny wrote: The Warrington attendance was officially 10,750 as announced on their website http://warringtonwolves.com/match-summa ... 1GeBocnLIU Waving a flag in favour of one dodgy reported attendance ending in a nice round number (10,750) over the other multi-reported dodgy attendance ending in a nice round number (10,500) doesn't render it more authoritative. Given the reported attendance of 11,550 for the Warrington V Wigan game in Round 6, it is to be hoped that this isn't the start of a trend of reporting dodgy "Catalanesque" type attendance figures at the Halliwell Jones.

Shoe Shine Johnny wrote: The Warrington attendance was officially 10,750 as announced on their website http://warringtonwolves.com/match-summa ... 1GeBocnLIU Waving a flag in favour of one dodgy reported attendance ending in a nice round number (10,750) over the other multi-reported dodgy attendance ending in a nice round number (10,500) doesn't render it more authoritative. Given the reported attendance of 11,550 for the Warrington V Wigan game in Round 6, it is to be hoped that this isn't the start of a trend of reporting dodgy "Catalanesque" type attendance figures at the Halliwell Jones.

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Sun Apr 20, 2014 3:50 pm  

loiner81 wrote:

RU average attendances down by about 500 per club on last season
Championship football down by about 1000 per club on last season
RL changing weekly, might be up but may well be down. TBC in October.

Anyone would think there was some kind of recession on or something..

And anyone who thought that would be horribly, horribly wrong!

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Sun Apr 20, 2014 4:07 pm  

loiner81 wrote:

RU average attendances down by about 500 per club on last season
Championship football down by about 1000 per club on last season
RL changing weekly, might be up but may well be down. TBC in October.

Anyone would think there was some kind of recession on or something..

William doesn't take them attendances seriously as they all end in 00

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:13 pm  

Bull Mania wrote:

William doesn't take them attendances seriously as they don't agree with his warped view of life in general, and rugby league attendances in particular.

Amended for accuracy. HTH

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:55 pm  

loiner81 wrote:

RU average attendances down by about 500 per club on last season

Per game it's 314 so far...or 2.5%....let's not do rounding up/down as it upsets Billy

loiner81 wrote:

Championship football down by about 1000 per club on last season

909 actually.....or 5.2%
Oh...both those comps above will have variances due to P&R especially the premiership that swapped 3 teams with the championship....it's 458 UP.......but well spotted that they are down.

loiner81 wrote:

RL changing weekly, might be up but may well be down. TBC in October.

Ah....indeed. TBC in October, but the point of the Original Poster starting this thread was to counter young Billy's 2013 thread, which showed with some accuracy how attendances were tracking per round, per club, per fixture and for the season.....this enthusiasm has somewhat waned it would seem since the 12% spike at the start has slowly, but assuredly been eroded over the subsequent 8 weeks.

loiner81 wrote:

Anyone would think there was some kind of recession on or something..

...and they'd be wrong if they did. Britain is out of recession and whilst nobody is claiming everything is rosy, there is more cash out there than there was back in the dark days.

Personally, I miss the updates, regardless of if they are up, down or exactly the same. They highlight the good work being done at some clubs in regards to trying to attain self sufficiency, whilst underlining that other clubs need to work much harder. This round that has just passed was the "derby round", which traditionally delivers one of the biggest attendances of the season....This year it delivers 60,012 (SPORTING LIFE ATTENDANCES) whilst last year it delivered 80,429. But...the corresponding fixtures last year only delivered 55,814, so this year is actually 7.5% up on last years corresponding fixtures with the correct home and away teams, but 25.4% down on the 1st round of Easter fixtures.

There are a number of factors to explain this, not least that Wigan, Hull FC and Leeds were away this year, Wakefield having a limit in place, London being even a bigger basket case than ever before.... and this is why Billy's 2013 thread was useful. It highlighted all of these facts.
Alas, now all we get are sweeping statements that 2014 is ahead of 2013, but no factual documentation or statistics to back it up. A quick glance at the SL Wikipedia page for 2014 also sees the updating has dried up, so maybe the author of that is the same as the OP here?

Anyway...corresponding fixtures for this coming round, last year delivered 72,320 attendees, whilst the 2nd round of Easter fixtures in 2013 saw 57,882 take in the action across the 7 games.

I really hope either the OP comes back or Billy updates this thread......it is important, because next year there will be a massive increase in the average attendances od SL and every tom, dick and harry will fancy themselves an expert

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Sun Apr 20, 2014 9:43 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

.but well spotted that they are down.

Which kind of begs the question... why do certain people make such a big deal of SL attendances being slightly down some weeks? The fact that they're actually up overall so far this season should be the big talking point. While other sports are losing fans our sport is growing and that should be shouted from the rooftops.

gutterfax wrote:

...and they'd be wrong if they did. Britain is out of recession and whilst nobody is claiming everything is rosy, there is more cash out there than there was back in the dark days.

Tell that to the record number of people relying on food parcels every week.

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Sun Apr 20, 2014 9:57 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

...and they'd be wrong if they did. Britain is out of recession and whilst nobody is claiming everything is rosy, there is more cash out there than there was back in the dark days.

Well no, because the person above meant consumer confidence, not recession (and to be fair, they generally go hand in hand) - and consumer confidence has only just (as in literally in the last month) risen to pre 2008 levels. If you regionalise the statistics, and correlate the "core" rugby league community, there's still quite a way to go before consumer confidence is near the levels it once was. Therefore, wide economical factors can still be taken into consideration - but not as severally as recent years - hence, to keep in line with economical figures a small 1-5%* increase should be expected - a drop this year would indicate the sport under performing commercially (without considering any other factors that might be taking place)

*note I haven't done the figures properly! merely roughly in my head.