Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:09 pm  

As promised on this thread earlier today.....

SL Round 10 attendances - comparison to same fixtures last year

Huddersfield V Wakefield in 2014 = 5,487
Huddersfield V Wakefield in 2013 = 8,757
% decrease = -37.34%

Hull V London in 2014 = 9,538
Hull V London in 2013 = 11,490
% decrease = -16.99%

Leeds V Salford in 2014 = 14,013
Leeds V Salford in 2013 = 12,558
% increase = +11.59%

Widnes V St Helens in 2014 = 7,706
Widnes V St Helens in 2013 = 8,322
% decrease = -7.40%

Wigan V Bradford in 2014 = 15,529
Wigan V Bradford in 2013 = 13,213
% increase = +17.53%

Castleford V Warrington in 2014 = 6,853
Castleford V Warrington in 2013 = 5,980
% increase = +14.60%

Catalans V Hull KR in 2014 = 9,863
Catalans V Hull KR in 2013 = 14,858
% decrease = -33.62%

Total Attendance in SL Round 10 = 68,989 (Avg: 9,856)
Total Attendance same fixtures last year = 75,178 (Avg: 10,740)
% decrease = -8.23%

3 out of 7 fixtures in Round 10 have shown an increase in attendance compared to the same SL fixtures last year. 4 out of 7 fixtures in Round 10 have shown a decrease in attendance compared to the same SL fixtures last year.

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Regular Season SL Attendances by Round in 2014 V Corresponding Fixtures in 2013

Round 1 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 71,744 (Avg: 10,249)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 66,109 (Avg: 9,444)
% increase = +8.52%

Round 2 Fixtures (6 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 47,191 (Avg: 7,865)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 47,325 (Avg: 7,888)
% decrease = -0.28%

Round 3 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 52,641 (Avg: 7,520)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 53,062 (Avg: 7,580)
% decrease = -0.79%

Round 4 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 51,246 (Avg: 7,321)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 52,108 (Avg: 7,444)
% decrease = -1.65%

Round 5 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 62,477 (Avg: 8,925)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 56,276 (Avg: 8,039)
% increase = +11.02%

Round 6 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 59.174 (Avg: 8,453)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 63,482 (Avg: 9,069)
% decrease = -6.79%

Round 7 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 55,493 (Avg: 7,928)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 58,746 (Avg: 8,392)
% decrease = -5.54%

Round 8 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 65,161 (Avg: 9,309)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 73,890 (Avg: 10,556)
% decrease = -11.81%

Round 9 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 60,012 (Avg: 8,573)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 55,814 (Avg: 11,692)
% increase = +7.52%

Round 10 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 68,989 (Avg: 9,856)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 75,178 (Avg: 10,740)
% decrease = -8.23%

Rounds 1 to 10 Fixtures (69 in total)
Total attendance for 69 fixtures in 2014 = 594,128 (Avg: 8,611)
Total attendance for same 69 fixtures in 2013 = 601,990 (Avg: 8,724)
Cumulative attendance loss = -7,862
% decrease = -1.31%

Out of 69 fixtures played throughout the regular season in 2014, 33 out of 69 have shown an increase in attendance compared to the corresponding SL fixtures last year. 36 out of 39 fixtures have shown a decrease in attendance compared to the corresponding SL fixtures last year.

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4 SL clubs attendances are currently up on last season.
10 SL clubs attendances are currently down on last season.

Club... Games... 2014... 2013... %gain/loss
Salford... 5... 30606... 14601... +109.62%
St Helens... 5... 68355... 59620... +14.65%
Hull KR... 5... 42736... 37677... +13.43%
Castleford... 5... 36815... 33288... +10.60%
Leeds... 5... 71446... 71641... -0.27%
Widnes... 5... 29482... 29788... -1.03%
Wigan... 6... 78169... 80918... -3.40%
Warrington... 5... 54261... 57026... -4.85%
Hull... 6... 60645... 65173... -6.95%
Huddersfield... 4... 28494... 30739... -7.30%
Bradford... 5... 36655... 42739... -14.24%
Catalans... 4... 32351... 40229... -19.58%
Wakefield... 4... 18435... 28598... -35.54%
London... 5... 5678... 9953... -42.95%

TOTAL... 69... 594128... 601990... -1.31%

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Current Average Attendances V Same Fixtures Last Year
Club... SL:2014... (SL:2013)
Leeds... 14289... (14328)
St Helens... 13671... (11924)
Wigan... 13028... (13486)
Warrington... 10852... (11405)
Hull... 10108... (10862)
Hull KR... 8547... (7535)
Catalans... 8088... (10057)
Castleford... 7363... (6658)
Bradford... 7331... (8548)
Huddersfield... 7124... (7685)
Salford... 6121... (2920)
Widnes... 5896... (5958)
Wakefield... 4609... (7150)
London... 1136... (1991)

Average... 8611... (8724)

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SL Rounds 1 to 10 total attendances comparison (2009 to 2014)
SL 2014 - 594,128 from 69 fixtures
SL 2013 - 601,990 from same 69 fixtures
SL 2012 - 665,837 from same 69 fixtures
SL 2011 - 620,563 from same 69 fixtures**
SL 2010 - 607,207 from same 69 fixtures**
SL 2009 - 607,918 from same 69 fixtures**

SL 2014 % decrease in attendances (V corresponding 69 fixtures)
V SL 2013 = -1.31%
V SL 2012 = -10.77%
V SL 2011 = -4.26% **
V SL 2010 = -2.15% **
V SL 2009 = -2.27% **

SL 2014 attendance losses (V corresponding 69 fixtures)
V SL 2013 = -7,862
V SL 2012 = -71,709
V SL 2011 = -26,435 **
V SL 2010 = -13,079 **
V SL 2009 = -13,790 **

SL regular season average attendances (V corresponding 69 fixtures)
SL 2014 = 8,611
SL 2013 = 8,724
SL 2012 = 9,650
SL 2011 = 8,994 **
SL 2010 = 8,800 **
SL 2009 = 8,810 **

NOTE...** except replace Widnes with Crusaders

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Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:20 pm  

William Eve wrote: Dodgy SL attendances 2014 Round 1: Hull V Catalans was declared as 11,400 (dodgy) by several sources including the RFL, Skysports, Superleague and Sportinglife websites. Loverugbyleague, Hull Daily Mail website and the Hull FC club itself declared the attendance as 10,178. The judgement call I made on this one was to select the officially announced attendance of 10,178 by the club and it's local newspaper. Round 9: Warrington V Widnes was quoted by every RL source as 10,500 but the Warrington Wolves club upgraded it later to 10,750. All the other sources still quoting 10,500 and I'm sticking with that for no other reason that I really do not want to replace one dodgy attendance figure with another. Majority rules in this instance. Ratchford’s conversion brought up the 44 points and sent the majority of the 10,750 crowd home very happy. http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/spo ... Vikings_6/

William Eve wrote: Dodgy SL attendances 2014 Round 1: Hull V Catalans was declared as 11,400 (dodgy) by several sources including the RFL, Skysports, Superleague and Sportinglife websites. Loverugbyleague, Hull Daily Mail website and the Hull FC club itself declared the attendance as 10,178. The judgement call I made on this one was to select the officially announced attendance of 10,178 by the club and it's local newspaper. Round 9: Warrington V Widnes was quoted by every RL source as 10,500 but the Warrington Wolves club upgraded it later to 10,750. All the other sources still quoting 10,500 and I'm sticking with that for no other reason that I really do not want to replace one dodgy attendance figure with another. Majority rules in this instance. Ratchford’s conversion brought up the 44 points and sent the majority of the 10,750 crowd home very happy. http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/spo ... Vikings_6/

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:49 pm  

Shoe Shine Johnny wrote: Ratchford’s conversion brought up the 44 points and sent the majority of the 10,750 crowd home very happy. http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/spo ... Vikings_6/ Unfortunately, the Loverugbyleague website does not concur as it did in the Hull V Catalans instance from Round 1, therefore majority rules in this instance given the number of sources going with the unsatisfactory figure of 10,500. Moreover, there's something rather comforting about selecting 10,178 in favour of a dodgy 11,400. There is nothing comforting about having to select one dodgy attendance figure of 10,750 over sundry others claiming a dodgy 10,500. Your agenda in this instance is duly noted however. PS: That RL publication you used to work for which is based in Brighouse has also gone with the dodgy 10,500. BOOOOOOOOOO!

Shoe Shine Johnny wrote: Ratchford’s conversion brought up the 44 points and sent the majority of the 10,750 crowd home very happy. http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/spo ... Vikings_6/ Unfortunately, the Loverugbyleague website does not concur as it did in the Hull V Catalans instance from Round 1, therefore majority rules in this instance given the number of sources going with the unsatisfactory figure of 10,500. Moreover, there's something rather comforting about selecting 10,178 in favour of a dodgy 11,400. There is nothing comforting about having to select one dodgy attendance figure of 10,750 over sundry others claiming a dodgy 10,500. Your agenda in this instance is duly noted however. PS: That RL publication you used to work for which is based in Brighouse has also gone with the dodgy 10,500. BOOOOOOOOOO!

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:06 pm  

William Eve wrote:

Unfortunately, the Loverugbyleague website does not concur as it did in the Hull V Catalans instance from Round 1, therefore majority rules in this instance given the number of sources going with the unsatisfactory figure of 10,500. Moreover, there's something rather comforting about selecting 10,178 in favour of a dodgy 11,400. There is nothing comforting about having to select one dodgy attendance figure of 10,750 over sundry others claiming a dodgy 10,500.

Your agenda in this instance is duly noted however.

PS: That RL publication you used to work for which is based in Brighouse has also gone with the dodgy 10,500.

BOOOOOOOOOO!

So you choose (your judgement call) the club figure and the local paper figure for Hull v Catalans Rd 1 (lower figure)

You ignore (your judgement call) the club figure and the local paper figure for Warrington v Widnes Rd 9 (lower figure)

okay, good logic.

I never worked for any Brighouse publication only regional and national newspapers. Crowds are down - we know that - no-one is pretending otherwise. You won't get those hours of your life back documenting the bl*****g obvious.

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:33 pm  

Shoe Shine Johnny wrote:

So you choose (your judgement call) the club figure and the local paper figure for Hull v Catalans Rd 1 (lower figure)

You ignore (your judgement call) the club figure and the local paper figure for Warrington v Widnes Rd 9 (lower figure)

okay, good logic.

Logic does appear to have escaped you... or perhaps your obtuseness in this instance is deliberate? The logic applied is that I'm not prepared to replace one dodgy attendance (10,500) with another dodgy attendance (10,750). This is a radically different situation to replacing one dodgy attendance (11,400) with a more realistic attendance (10,178).

Shoe Shine Johnny wrote:

I never worked for any Brighouse publication only regional and national newspapers. Crowds are down - we know that - no-one is pretending otherwise. You won't get those hours of your life back documenting the bl*****g obvious.

Crowds are down marginally this year, yet some had been pretending otherwise a little earlier in this thread. Thanks for your continued interest in attendances. Don't worry about me and my life... my summer off-season is rapidly approaching

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:05 pm  

Shoe Shine Johnny wrote:

. Crowds are down - we know that - no-one is pretending otherwise.

JonB95 wrote:

I delivered the first few weeks attendances (and by the way they are still up on last year)

Oops
The fact remains that the thread was started to counter Billy's 2013 thread.....as soon as the attendances dropped, the updates dried up......I have no doubt that when the attendances rise, so will the faithful.

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:09 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

Oops
The fact remains that the thread was started to counter Billy's 2013 thread.....as soon as the attendances dropped, the updates dried up......I have no doubt that when the attendances rise, so will the faithful.

Which one of you two is Bonnie and which one is Clyde? Or do you take turns wearing the dress?

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:13 pm  

Shoe Shine Johnny wrote:

Which one of you two is Bonnie and which one is Clyde? Or do you take turns wearing the dress?

ah...the sanctity of the insult. Once a debate is lost, it rears its head here with swiss style precision

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:16 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

Oops
The fact remains that the thread was started to counter Billy's 2013 thread.....as soon as the attendances dropped, the updates dried up......I have no doubt that when the attendances rise, so will the faithful.

People who were saying that the WC would have a knock-on effect on SL crowds were being absolutely deluded. For a start, very few of the WC stars were actually playing in SL week in week out.

The quality of the football is dropping and when that happens people will pick and choose games. The new system coming in will see people pick and choose even more.

If this sort of pattern is replicated next year, then Hull KR, Salford and Catalans would be looking ahead to games with Doncaster, Leigh, Dewsbury etc. How is that going to get people through the door?

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:16 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

ah...the sanctity of the insult. Once a debate is lost, it rears its head here with swiss style precision

My apologies, couldn't resist lol. You popped up too quickly after WE! I have answered your point.