: Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:24 pm  

The Clan wrote:

Dissagree!
He had no chance of stopping that try he was simply too close to the line and momentum was always going to carry the player over.

He was still one of Wests better players in a poor team performance, I thought the game was played down the Tigers left and hence Ellis was'nt as involved as he was in his first match.

The week to week intensity won't phase him, he's one of the best conditioned athletes in the game, is very mentaly strong and is probably the most professional player at the Wests club.

I did not mean that incident, I agree he could not stop the player going low, he should have gone Chest high.
I was referring to where he went the wrong way and opened a gap for the Cowboys to run through, he had several lapses in defence.

"most professional player at the Wests club"

I think Marshall, Farah, etc may be as professional as Gareth to be honest.

: Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:25 pm  

Jonesy wrote:

I think Marshall, Farah, etc may be as professional as Gareth to be honest.

but not more professional?

: Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:06 am  

Watching the Footy Show here the other night, according to Fatty... "Ellis is good because he plays like an Aussie"

I love the arrogant logic of the ockers.

: Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:47 am  

vastman wrote:

Is there no end to your insecurity driven waffle. Your endless attempts to big up the NRL and downgrade SL are becoming quite laughable and pathetic. Calling McGuire a "speed bump" you have hit a new low.

I would have thought even someone as lost in their own stupidity as you couldn't have failed to notice a 20 year old SL Academy player lost his life in a reserve team match making a tackle - was he a "speed bump" or whatever equally dim ocker comment you have in your locker. Was his defence suspect, would NRL training have stopped that? No it wouldn't because they are all brave lads who give their best - end of.

This mythical difference in intensity between the NRL and SL only exists in your prepubescent imagination in my opinion. For most of us the difference is minimal and thus both leagues are watched and admired. Both leagues contain genuinely great players, and which league they decide to play in does not diminish that other than to self justifying fools like you who need constant validation of themselves and their ideals.

Ellis always has been a superb player - playing in the NRL will make him a different player but not a necessarily a better one. Peacock will probably not play in the NRL but that will not diminish him in any way, he like Ellis has already proved himself a great player.

After the last week I myself have a new admiration and respect for all RL players at whatever level. Now please drop your evangelical NRL is the best, SL is poor, my dad is bigger than yours nonsense. Don't bleat that you never mentioned any of this because your endless inferences that SL is soft are all too obvious, just enjoy both and give us all a break.

what a load of tripe.

did you watch the WCC?

mcguire defence was exposed for what it is.

danny mcguire has great potential to be a good player in the nrl.

on current standards his defence is well below par for a 6.

: Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:48 am  

Hull Kingston Bronco wrote:

Watching the Footy Show here the other night, according to Fatty... "Ellis is good because he plays like an Aussie"

I love the arrogant logic of the ockers.

heard that.

there once was a time they used to say aussie players were good because they played like poms.

that was 40 or 50 years ago

: Sat Mar 28, 2009 10:47 am  

Danny McGuire an NRL 6 ???!?!?!?!?!



Can't pass accurately both ways, can't control a game and he doesn't even direct the forwards at the side he is at now. This is before you start with his defence, which is turnstyle like.

Danny McGuire is a support player who profits from lazy defence, which he won't encounter in the NRL. Imagine the laughing stock the SL would become if we sent McGuire there claiming to be a genuine half back, it doesn't bear thinking about.

Lets leave McGuire to look brilliant against the poor defences he comes up against over here.

: Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:10 am  

when taking about NRL defences we should start adding 'pre 2refs system' and 'post 2ref system'


'pre 2refs system' defences where tough,hard etc... because the game was so regimented,everyone knew that the ball was going to be driven in 4 or 5 times right up the middle...

'post 2refs system' the game has been blown wide open,fast moving,free flowing,gaps galore,exciting RL...


the likes of danny mcguire.....and rob burrows would thrive in a 'post 2ref system' NRL imo...

: Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:12 am  

roughyedspud wrote:

when taking about NRL defences we should start adding 'pre 2refs system' and 'post 2ref system'


'pre 2refs system' defences where tough,hard etc... because the game was so regimented,everyone knew that the ball was going to be driven in 4 or 5 times right up the middle...

'post 2refs system' the game has been blown wide open,fast moving,free flowing,gaps galore,exciting RL...


the likes of danny mcguire.....and rob burrows eould thrive in a 'post 2ref system' NRL imo...

Thats a good point Roughy, and I think it's also the reason that Benji Marshall seems to have found a new lease of life this season.

: Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:15 am  

Having just watched Canberra and Parramatta, I think its safe to say neither McGuire, Burrow or any other British half could seriously consider getting a contract to play half in the NRL.

We have professional rugby players in the SL who cannot pass accurately to both sides, thats how bad the situation is.

: Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:18 am  

it was a woeful game...both were well below "NRL standard"