Re: Bailey-Radford...set aside your prejudices? : Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:22 am  

Omar Little wrote:

Bailey clearly isn't popular around here (except with Leeds fans) and as a result there seems to be a lot of attempting to justify Radford's stupidity.

But does anyone else get the feeling that if the roles were reversed everyone on here would be saying how it was a well deserved red-card for a cheap-shot/sh*t-house/cowardly attack on the man on the floor......in fact if we're being brutally honest, perhaps if Radford was black and Bailey white a lot of those sticking up for Radford might have very different opinions...

Which one, Bailey's repeated elbowing of Radfords head??

Bailey provoct, Radford reacted. As per the Mason / Fielden incident recently, they should have both done 10 minutes.

That no action was taken against Bailey at the time for elbowing, going looking for a bit more trouble, head butting a by stander, speaks volumes of the protection certain teams get from the officials.

Re: Bailey-Radford...set aside your prejudices? : Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:32 am  

Bobbin' Along wrote:

I personally consider him to be of a similar ilk to Terry Newton and the colour of either man's skin does not come into it.

Why do you consider him to be of a similar ilk to Newton? It can't be that they have a similar disciplinary record because, and here is why the OP has a valid point, because Bailey has never received a red card and only ever received 1 yellow card.

So, why do you reach the judgment you have done?

You see, there are other front rowers with a much worse record than Baileys. Look at how universally respected Morley is in comparison to Bailey yet Bailey has a much cleaner disciplinary record. So what gives?

Considering the consensus of (misguided) opinion from everyone but a proportion of Leeds fans and Leeds 1st team coaches is that he's not a good player there isn't another player in the entire league that gets as much bandwidth devoted to him on here as Bailey.

I know why, the OP knows why. I don't expect any of you to agree or admit it but it's flagrant. It's OK for white boys like Sculthorpe, Morley, MCDermott etc to act like enforcers in the game but when some uppety swarthy lad tries it that just won't wash with the majority of white supporters on RL Fans.

Re: Bailey-Radford...set aside your prejudices? : Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:41 am  

G1 wrote:

Why do you consider him to be of a similar ilk to Newton? It can't be that they have a similar disciplinary record because, and here is why the OP has a valid point, because Bailey has never received a red card and only ever received 1 yellow card.

So, why do you reach the judgment you have done?

You see, there are other front rowers with a much worse record than Baileys. Look at how universally respected Morley is in comparison to Bailey yet Bailey has a much cleaner disciplinary record. So what gives?

Considering the consensus of (misguided) opinion from everyone but a proportion of Leeds fans and Leeds 1st team coaches is that he's not a good player there isn't another player in the entire league that gets as much bandwidth devoted to him on here as Bailey.

I know why, the OP knows why. I don't expect any of you to agree or admit it but it's flagrant. It's OK for white boys like Sculthorpe, Morley, MCDermott etc to act like enforcers in the game but when some uppety swarthy lad tries it that just won't wash with the majority of white supporters on RL Fans.

There's a difference when they do stuff they are not bothered who to do it to, any size, weight etc. Bailey will only do it if someone is on the floor on a smaller man, see wembley on Riley, or like we seen last night him trying to head butt someone who isn't even looking.

Re: Bailey-Radford...set aside your prejudices? : Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:43 am  

Who are ya!! wrote:

There's a difference when they do stuff

Yes there is, and I know what the difference is. We all know what the difference is. It's staring us in the face. Some just can't admit it.

Re: Bailey-Radford...set aside your prejudices? : Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:45 am  

For anyone that thinks Radford should have been sent off why are you not saying Wellens should have walked too.

Bailey elbows Radford 3 or 4 times in the head, Radford reacts and throws a few punches. Correct decision is penalty to Hull and either both players in the bin or both players warned. Bad decision Mr Smith.

McGoldrick elbows Wellens. Wellens reacts and drops the elbow on McGoldricks head. Correct decision is penalty to St Helens and either both players in the bin or both players warned. Wrong decision from Mr Thaler but at least he didn't send anyone off.

Why can't the Ref use the Video Ref in such situations? There is a natural stoppage of play from the scuffle. If Radfords punches were unprovoked then yes i would agree with the red card but they clearly weren't. The technology is available and in such situations would not affect the flow of the game so use it!

Who are ya!! wrote:

What a stupid thing to say about skin color, the only reason Bailey gets the stick because he's a cowardly thug.

I would expect Radford to get a decent ban for what he did, i would expect between 3 - 5 games and bailey to get between 1- 3

The first bit completly correct but to suggest a 3 - 5 game ban for provoked punching is a joke. Ablett only got 3 for taking Tomkins' head off with an elbow, Mason only got 3 for stamping on a defensless Fielden. Radford should get sending off sufficient as the RFL wont have the balls to admit their Ref was wrong. Bailey should get one match for the attempted headbut but i very much doubt he will.

Re: Bailey-Radford...set aside your prejudices? : Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:13 am  

Omar Little wrote:

Bailey clearly isn't popular around here (except with Leeds fans) and as a result there seems to be a lot of attempting to justify Radford's stupidity.

But does anyone else get the feeling that if the roles were reversed everyone on here would be saying how it was a well deserved red-card for a cheap-shot/sh*t-house/cowardly attack on the man on the floor...

...in fact if we're being brutally honest, perhaps if Radford was black and Bailey white a lot of those sticking up for Radford might have very different opinions...

Nothing at all to do with anyone's skin colour. Baily is a C U Next [b]T[/b]uesday. Simplez.

Re: Bailey-Radford...set aside your prejudices? : Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:38 am  

Eastbourne Warrior wrote:

For anyone that thinks Radford should have been sent off why are you not saying Wellens should have walked too.

Bailey elbows Radford 3 or 4 times in the head, Radford reacts and throws a few punches. Correct decision is penalty to Hull and either both players in the bin or both players warned. Bad decision Mr Smith.

McGoldrick elbows Wellens. Wellens reacts and drops the elbow on McGoldricks head. Correct decision is penalty to St Helens and either both players in the bin or both players warned. Wrong decision from Mr Thaler but at least he didn't send anyone off.

Why can't the Ref use the Video Ref in such situations? There is a natural stoppage of play from the scuffle. If Radfords punches were unprovoked then yes i would agree with the red card but they clearly weren't. The technology is available and in such situations would not affect the flow of the game so use it!

The first bit completly correct but to suggest a 3 - 5 game ban for provoked punching is a joke. Ablett only got 3 for taking Tomkins' head off with an elbow, Mason only got 3 for stamping on a defensless Fielden. Radford should get sending off sufficient as the RFL wont have the balls to admit their Ref was wrong. Bailey should get one match for the attempted headbut but i very much doubt he will.

The only reason i suggested such bans, is because i think things like this (punches/elbows etc) have been creeping in the last few months more and more and could do with a few bans being handed out to detour others.

Re: Bailey-Radford...set aside your prejudices? : Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:49 am  

This is hilarious - people getting worked up so much over Bailey.

It is well known what he does - he plays up to the very, very edge of what is legal within the game very very well and many fans get worked up about it. But what he does the vast majority of the time is legal - hence why his record is so good.

The same goes for Senior in tracking back and defending the winger when catching kicks - only just legal but still legal all the same.

When fans say he should be penalised it is usually because they see it as being unfair because of ignorance of the laws of the game and they feel victims of unfairness.

It would be like suggesting the police should stop people for driving at 30mph in a 30mph area - because it is on the very edge of what is legal.

Until the laws of the game are changed Bailey will keep doing what he does because it is within the laws.

Re: Bailey-Radford...set aside your prejudices? : Sun Sep 05, 2010 12:11 pm  

russianboris wrote:

Until the laws of the game are changed Bailey will keep doing what he does because it is within the laws.

Im pretty sure your not supposed to repeatedly elbow an opponent In the head.

Re: Bailey-Radford...set aside your prejudices? : Sun Sep 05, 2010 12:17 pm  

Officials at certain clubs have far too much influence at Red Hall

Ryan Bailey is a thug and a coward

Most players will wriggle and try to milk a penalty when tackled , elbowing somebody repeatedly in the head is NOT within the laws of the game

I will guarantee he will not do that to Lee Radford again

Each player should have got the same penalty

As for the colour of his skin , you sir are an idiot