Re: Wigan abuse new cap rules already? : Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:07 pm  

dirtbag83 wrote:

Well he'd be getting more than he's currently on at Auckland Vulcans obviously

How much is he on there?

Maybe he has to give up a decent job to come over, nobody knows how much he is on.

Very disappointing signing from Wigan signing a 3rd grade overseas player.

Strange recruitment by Wane so far at Wigan.

Re: Wigan abuse new cap rules already? : Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:16 pm  

I'm sure that the salary cap was changed solely at the insistence of Wigan, who cohersed the RFL into changing it for Wigan's benefit, by misleading them that it was to retain ST, and that the other clubs had no knowledge of it.

I just can't find the link to these facts. Maybe Saddened could help?

Re: Wigan abuse new cap rules already? : Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:18 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

How much is he on there?

Maybe he has to give up a decent job to come over, nobody knows how much he is on.

Very disappointing signing from Wigan signing a 3rd grade overseas player.

Strange recruitment by Wane so far at Wigan.

Although I've never seen him play so I can't comment on his ability he won't have been picked up by the Roosters if he didn't have something about him and he's only just turned 21. This is still all rumours anyway. Nothing official about Gelling from the club yet

Re: Wigan abuse new cap rules already? : Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:25 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

How much is he on there?

Maybe he has to give up a decent job to come over, nobody knows how much he is on.

Very disappointing signing from Wigan signing a 3rd grade overseas player.

Strange recruitment by Wane so far at Wigan.

We see these sorts of comments every year.

We signed deacon and only deacon 2 years ago, everyone was saying how his best days where at bradford. It turned out as a master stroke as he guided us to grand final and challenge cup success.

Prior to this we signed George Carmont similar time to Warrington signing King, everyone was saying warrington had got one over wigan and wigan where in decline! 4 Years on and hes one if not the best centres in super league.

At the end of the day centres are few and far between in the UK so we where bound to look overseas whilst the development of our own centres continues for next year when Carmont retires.

Brisbane took a punt last year on a lad called Jack Reed! Look how hes developed this year.

Leave Wigans recruitment to wigan and let's see whoose smiling at the end of the year, with good depth in the forwards with the signings of Lauaki, Dudson and Flower (2 YOUNG talents) and also now a 3rd on the way in Gelling we're clearly thinking outside the box a bit and looking for depth.

Wigans line up potentially next year could be

1. Sam Tomkins
2. Josh Charnley
3. Anthony Gelling
4. George Carmont
5. Pat Richards
6. Brett Finch
7. Tommy Leuluai
8. Lee Mossop
9. Mike McIllorum
10. Jeff Lima
11. Harrison Hansen
12. Liam Farrell
13. Sean O'Loughlin

14. Paul Prescott
15. Stuart Fielden
16. Gareth Hock
17. Joe Mellor

You will not hear this wigan fan complaining to see that line up! considering we've got players such as Gil Dudson, Ben Flower, Lauaki, Chris Tuson, Dom Crosby, Darrell Goulding, Stefan Marsh, Amos Roberts, Ryan King, Matty Russell all waiting in reserve for their shot!

Re: Wigan abuse new cap rules already? : Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:26 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

How much is he on there?

Maybe he has to give up a decent job to come over, nobody knows how much he is on.

Very disappointing signing from Wigan signing a 3rd grade overseas player.

Strange recruitment by Wane so far at Wigan.

Not being funny but this is coming from someone whos club has signed Brett Seymour, a guy who was sacked off from the Sharks from drunken antics and has been less than average at the Warriors making juist 22 appearances in 2 seasons, and again got into trouble over drunken antics.

Oh yea and has been playing along side him at the Vulcans this year. At least this guy is young and has potential to improve and become a decent player, whereas Seymour will always be a 2nd/3rd grade player. Add in Tony Martin and Martin Aspinwall, and I would be more concerned at your own strange signings. At least we are looking at signing young players with potential insted of proven journymen.

Re: Wigan abuse new cap rules already? : Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:36 pm  

A massive 8 overseas players in the Wigan 17. Those overseas player rules are working fabulously I see.

How are teams able to add to their overseas contingent when the rules are supposed to be reducing them? Saints have done the same. Have the rules been relaxed again?

On Gelling it seems he's a decent player. The NZ Warriors fans seem to be of the opinion he's as good as the current NZ international centres and that he should have been in their first grade as at least a backup if not a starting centre.

They all agree that his future is in the backrow and not centre though. But it doesn't look like he's a bad player. He was apparently the standout in the Vulcans Grand Final win and was expected to step up to first grade.

Quite how a player like that attains a work permit is beyond me though. Do those not exist any more? I can remember days when NRL players with 50+ games were denied permits.

Re: Wigan abuse new cap rules already? : Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:40 pm  

he could defecate all over Wigan and no one would notice..... risk free signing in that respect.

Re: Wigan abuse new cap rules already? : Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:41 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

A massive 8 overseas players in the Wigan 17. Those overseas player rules are working fabulously I see.

Thats something I will actually agree with you on. 8 is too many regardless of what loopholes exist. I would like to see all clubs limited to no more than 4 overseas signings, but you will always find ways to get around it as many Aussies have passports from other European countries.

Re: Wigan abuse new cap rules already? : Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:44 pm  

Poor signing if we are honest. Typical SL to fly a kid half way around the world to 'give him a shot' when there are kids throughout the country busting their arses for a shot at SL.

You have to ask why a proud club like Wigan is looking in the NZ reserves grades for kids to mould in to SL centres, are there none in this country? Why not take a punt on Stefan Marsh or Darrell Goulding or Josh Charnley instead of a 21 year old NSW cup player.


Nothing to do with the SC though

Re: Wigan abuse new cap rules already? : Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:45 pm  

morleys_deckchair wrote:

he could defecate all over Wigan and no one would notice..... risk free signing in that respect.

We like to refer to that pile as "Leigh" thank you very much.