Re: Wigan Warriors - bringing the sport into disrepute : Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:28 pm  

As others have said. Wigan aren’t responsible for anything other than the salary cap breach and amateurishly announcing Edwards as coach before getting a contract signed.

They aren’t responsible for fully grown adults being morons. That lays fully at the door of those individuals.

Re: Wigan Warriors - bringing the sport into disrepute : Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:15 pm  

As far as opposition fans are concerned Wigan bring the game into disrepute simply if they win a game especially with those lot over the lump or them in la la land aka Warrington
When anything negative happens that bring adversity to Wigan it seems that the entire sport and it’s followers can’t wait to jump on the “let’s all kick Wigan while it’s down” bandwagon
If this had occurred at say Salford or even Leeds no one would have really bothered about it, but because it’s wigan, it’s major news
As the saying goes “Hated, adored but never ignored “ is obviously 100% correct
What I found amusing is the thread started as a debate about Wigan then sank into insults between our West Yorkshire neighbours about wakeys stadium
Thanks for the entertainment guys I quite enjoyed it

Re: Wigan Warriors - bringing the sport into disrepute : Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:25 pm  

Him wrote:

As others have said. Wigan aren’t responsible for anything other than the salary cap breach and amateurishly announcing Edwards as coach before getting a contract signed.

They aren’t responsible for fully grown adults being morons. That lays fully at the door of those individuals.

I get the point that it’s all down to the individuals but at the same time they’ve had 4 ‘incidents’ now in the last 9 months or so dating back to the Tomkins incident so I think some questioning of the club as a whole is fair - not the OTT they should be charged that the OP suggested, but certainly questions asked that goes beyond it’s just the individuals.

Re: Wigan Warriors - bringing the sport into disrepute : Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:38 pm  

The VT is absolutely brilliant.

Tiptoed on here as a Wigan fan and saw this thread.

Read the opening gambit and to be honest think there is some truth (only some) in the OP

However the best bit is that even when there is an opportunity for the collective masses to unite and claim the high moral ground against the dastardly wwrlfc...

You instead turn on each other and engage a full out human vs troll debate against Wakeys stadium

Jesus.

It’s more dysfunctional on here than it is at my club currently.

You lot are bringing fans of the game into disrepute.

Chill fellas

Re: Wigan Warriors - bringing the sport into disrepute : Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:46 am  

tugglesf78 wrote:

The VT is absolutely brilliant.

Tiptoed on here as a Wigan fan and saw this thread.

Read the opening gambit and to be honest think there is some truth (only some) in the OP

However the best bit is that even when there is an opportunity for the collective masses to unite and claim the high moral ground against the dastardly wwrlfc...

You instead turn on each other and engage a full out human vs troll debate against Wakeys stadium

Jesus.

It’s more dysfunctional on here than it is at my club currently.

You lot are bringing fans of the game into disrepute.

Chill fellas

It’s a good point with one ever so slight flaw - it was a Wigan fan/troll who brought Wakefield yet again into the debate - tut tut

Re: Wigan Warriors - bringing the sport into disrepute : Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:18 am  

Angelus wrote:

Find me that quote and i'll agree with you.

Also, that doesn't change my post.

P.s, guess what Kevin Locke, Tim Smith, and Scott Moore all have in common?

They were all dismissed by their club for their shambolic, disgraceful behaviour?

Re: Wigan Warriors - bringing the sport into disrepute : Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:20 am  

tugglesf78 wrote:

The VT is absolutely brilliant.

Tiptoed on here as a Wigan fan and saw this thread.

Read the opening gambit and to be honest think there is some truth (only some) in the OP

However the best bit is that even when there is an opportunity for the collective masses to unite and claim the high moral ground against the dastardly wwrlfc...

You instead turn on each other and engage a full out human vs troll debate against Wakeys stadium

Jesus.

It’s more dysfunctional on here than it is at my club currently.

You lot are bringing fans of the game into disrepute.

Chill fellas

Agree with your post, and there is some truth in the OP, even though the charge of bringing the game into disrepute would never stick.
Obviously, there are issues at Wigan with what has happened recently, and one can only guess at what is the root cause. I wonder if Wane knew what was going on under the surface, and decided he was better off out of it, or whether Lenegan wanted to replace him with someone who could control the off field discipline of the squad and individuals? Either way, Lenegan has set a precedent of helping and rehabilitating in the case of Hardaker, rather than the policy of cross the line and you're out. It'll be interesting to see how Mullen and Hamblin are dealt with. These are difficult times for Wigan and the other clubs who have their issues too. It doesn't help when individuals make poor lifestyle choices, when our clubs and the RFL need to sell and improve our sport.

Re: Wigan Warriors - bringing the sport into disrepute : Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:50 am  

Cats13 wrote:

They were all dismissed by their club for their shambolic, disgraceful behaviour?

Indeed. For arguably worse than the Wigan players, especially in Scott Moore's case. And they all played for Wakefield at the time. However I dont blame Wakefield for that. I blame the individual.

And if the response is "at least the club did the right thing and sacked them" then, as stated, the wakefield players indiscretions were worse, and we dont yet know what action will be taken against the Wigan players. Let's see how it plays out before we condemn a club is all I'm asking.

Re: Wigan Warriors - bringing the sport into disrepute : Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:52 am  

These type of things could happen to any player at any club, and plenty of clubs have had similar issues, the clubs cannot be over responsible for players being idiots.

However the irony that Leneghan slated other clubs for not doing enough for looking after poor little Zac Hardaker and then after defending him he goes on a drunken car rampage, add the two recent stories and the Tomkins brothers misdemeanors, well if makes him and the club look very foolish, and does give the impression there is a rotten culture at the club or at best some bad apples. If i where them i would resort to a zero tolerance policy and get the rotten culture out of the club and the game.

Re: Wigan Warriors - bringing the sport into disrepute : Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:32 pm  

Angelus wrote:

Indeed. For arguably worse than the Wigan players, especially in Scott Moore's case. And they all played for Wakefield at the time. However I dont blame Wakefield for that. I blame the individual.

And if the response is "at least the club did the right thing and sacked them" then, as stated, the wakefield players indiscretions were worse, and we dont yet know what action will be taken against the Wigan players. Let's see how it plays out before we condemn a club is all I'm asking.

Where does getting drunk then glassing a team mate fall into the scale of things?

As you say, lets wait and see. Wigan don't have a track record of "doing the right thing" as you put it.

But then you could go back and look at most clubs not doing so in various scenarios. Its a sport wide culture that should be controlled similar to the NRL. The problem over here is that once the ethics team have dealt with everything, there wouldn't be a big enough player pool