Re: Which Championship clubs are the most sustainable? : Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:10 pm  

Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza wrote:
I’ve only ever posted provable facts. For example, Wakefield have been fined several times in recent years for fan disorder. Including a game at Belle Vue that saw Bradford fans subjected to vile racist abuse for having the temerity of standing in your ground. This lead to a fine and a statement from your chairman denouncing such behaviour. I recently posted about the National Crime Agency investigating the deal that saw Wakefield buy Belle Vue for twice it’s value from a man that went on to be the subject of the first unexplained wealth order due to links with drug dealers including the convicted murder Meggy Khan - using money borrowed from tax payers. These aren’t made up anti Wakefield abuse merely facts.

happyjack wrote:

Please explain to me in simple terms just exactly how it works where the club have benefited from paying twice the value of the ground, and also apart from the council lending the club money how does it affect the taxpayers if the club are paying it back with interest, with no land available to buy and build another stadium surely it's Wakefield that has been abused by the previous owner's exploitation of the situation, and should Wakefield be found guilty by association simply by a one off transaction with a man who previously on the face of it had no connections with crime.
As an ex Wakey fan who jumped ship and was blinded by the success of the bulls, it's easy to see that your bitterness towards the club still runs as deep as ever, back on topic Bradford has had it's day and it's ridiculous to include them as a club more likely to be sustainable in the near future, you seriously need to get over it.

kind of shot himself in the foot there, didn't realise he came from bradford

Re: Which Championship clubs are the most sustainable? : Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:38 pm  

Think Widnes are getting there. Easy opposition yesterday but first game in over a year.

Think 10 of the 17 on show yesterday came through the academy. Year after year bringing the youth through and providing talent for rugby league.

No flush with money, but will get decent crowds in this league and in superleague. Effectively purchased by a consortium of fans and have been run brilliantly since without spending beyond their means. Strong squad this season and fancy our chances if our injury list stays limited.

Always liked watching us play Toulouse. Always a good amount of French players in their 17 and I think as a club are really developing well.

Sustainable for me it looking at your clubs survival and existence beyond a sugar daddy bailing you out. Toronto not sustainable. No plan B and rushed through. Yet you need to keep expectations grounded as these are after all championship clubs your breaking down. Crowds/academy/facilities and infrastructure I’d put

Widnes/Toulouse/Bradford above the rest

But that’s just my opinion

Re: Which Championship clubs are the most sustainable? : Mon Mar 22, 2021 8:02 pm  

It makes me laugh when you all talk about Featherstone having a hooligan element! It's literally 5 grown men and 2 chavvy runts giving it the big un. I remember Hull KR going to P.O.R and a hand full of chavs pretending to be Lazio ultras. They soon ran home in record time.

Re: Which Championship clubs are the most sustainable? : Mon Mar 22, 2021 8:08 pm  

Pats plastic pitch wrote:

Think Widnes are getting there. Easy opposition yesterday but first game in over a year.

Think 10 of the 17 on show yesterday came through the academy. Year after year bringing the youth through and providing talent for rugby league.

No flush with money, but will get decent crowds in this league and in superleague. Effectively purchased by a consortium of fans and have been run brilliantly since without spending beyond their means. Strong squad this season and fancy our chances if our injury list stays limited.

Always liked watching us play Toulouse. Always a good amount of French players in their 17 and I think as a club are really developing well.

Sustainable for me it looking at your clubs survival and existence beyond a sugar daddy bailing you out. Toronto not sustainable. No plan B and rushed through. Yet you need to keep expectations grounded as these are after all championship clubs your breaking down. Crowds/academy/facilities and infrastructure I’d put

Widnes/Toulouse/Bradford above the rest

But that’s just my opinion

My top 4 in the championship in any order would be

Toulouse
Fev
York
Fax/Widnes

The Bulls may sneak in there.

My top 2 fighting for promotion is Toulouse and Fev.

Re: Which Championship clubs are the most sustainable? : Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:24 pm  

Rover52 wrote:

It makes me laugh when you all talk about Featherstone having a hooligan element! It's literally 5 grown men and 2 chavvy runts giving it the big un. I remember Hull KR going to P.O.R and a hand full of chavs pretending to be Lazio ultras. They soon ran home in record time.

That’s not the way my mate sees it. He’s a fev fan and he recalls the KR fans causing trouble and when the fev fans retaliated the hull fans called the police?

Re: Which Championship clubs are the most sustainable? : Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:31 am  

Pats plastic pitch wrote:

Think Widnes are getting there. Easy opposition yesterday but first game in over a year.

Think 10 of the 17 on show yesterday came through the academy. Year after year bringing the youth through and providing talent for rugby league.

No flush with money, but will get decent crowds in this league and in superleague. Effectively purchased by a consortium of fans and have been run brilliantly since without spending beyond their means. Strong squad this season and fancy our chances if our injury list stays limited.

Always liked watching us play Toulouse. Always a good amount of French players in their 17 and I think as a club are really developing well.

Sustainable for me it looking at your clubs survival and existence beyond a sugar daddy bailing you out. Toronto not sustainable. No plan B and rushed through. Yet you need to keep expectations grounded as these are after all championship clubs your breaking down. Crowds/academy/facilities and infrastructure I’d put

Widnes/Toulouse/Bradford above the rest

But that’s just my opinion

Did I read it correctly a while back that you were scrapping your academy - crying shame if that’s the case

Re: Which Championship clubs are the most sustainable? : Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:40 am  

Cokey wrote:

My top 4 in the championship in any order would be

Toulouse
Fev
York
Fax/Widnes

The Bulls may sneak in there.

My top 2 fighting for promotion is Toulouse and Fev.

Looks about right to there Cokey.
Fev, Toulouse and York, battling for GF spots.

Should be a cracking season.

Re: Which Championship clubs are the most sustainable? : Thu Mar 25, 2021 12:49 am  

Cokey wrote:

My top 4 in the championship in any order would be

Toulouse
Fev
York
Fax/Widnes

The Bulls may sneak in there.

My top 2 fighting for promotion is Toulouse and Fev.

I make that six

But I'm pleased to not see Leigh in the list, they deserved promotion after Mr. B worked so hard and put in so much cash despite the setbacks...........

Re: Which Championship clubs are the most sustainable? : Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:56 am  

Donnyman wrote:

I make that six

But I'm pleased to not see Leigh in the list, they deserved promotion after Mr. B worked so hard and put in so much cash despite the setbacks...........

Hypocritical as usual. You praise Beaumont for his commitment to Leigh but Guasch does the same and you want to kick him and his club out.

No need to reply because you never engage in any meaningful discussion except to wind people up.

Re: Which Championship clubs are the most sustainable? : Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:06 am  

Cokey wrote:

My top 4 in the championship in any order would be

Toulouse
Fev
York
Fax/Widnes

The Bulls may sneak in there.

My top 2 fighting for promotion is Toulouse and Fev.

I doubt Bradford will be anywhere near. Ben Evans is a good addition and we have some big hitters out injured that will hopefully come back but I doubt we'll trouble the top two or three.

Toulouse might not end up being able to compete in the competition thanks to covid. Even if we get to the end and the only games binned off are home games against part time clubs the pressure is really on them to keep the win percentage up as they'll have played less games than anyone else. Less games to level out the drop in percentage from losses & draws and a greater proportion of away games than anyone else.

I reckon Featherstone are some distance in front of everyone else but we'll see.