Re: Sam Burgess Union debut : Mon Dec 29, 2014 1:14 am  

Him wrote:

He didn't say its a conspiracy. Do you seriously think UK newspapers aren't biased in their reporting?

Do you seriously believe that a sport that is played professionally along 1 stretch of motorway has any right to be called "national"?
Quins get 82k because they create the event then market it......it then gets reported because its a big event. The Aviva gets a bigger average attendance than sl and us propped up bu the juggernaut that is the international game.......their London double header is well attended and sarries are back at Wembley soon.......all this builds a hype and the media cover it. The idea that the media refuse to cover a sport to deliver some agenda is insane. Supply and demand dictate what the press print.........if there was a demand for league it would be met. There isn't!
The chip on the shoulder of many so called rl fans is what more often than not is the reason the game is held back where it is.

Re: Sam Burgess Union debut : Mon Dec 29, 2014 3:20 am  

gutterfax wrote:

Do you seriously believe that a sport that is played professionally along 1 stretch of motorway has any right to be called "national"?
Quins get 82k because they create the event then market it......it then gets reported because its a big event. The Aviva gets a bigger average attendance than sl and us propped up bu the juggernaut that is the international game.......their London double header is well attended and sarries are back at Wembley soon.......all this builds a hype and the media cover it. The idea that the media refuse to cover a sport to deliver some agenda is insane. Supply and demand dictate what the press print.........if there was a demand for league it would be met. There isn't!
The chip on the shoulder of many so called rl fans is what more often than not is the reason the game is held back where it is.

You see, once again, you've gone off on one of your flights of fancy with a load of irrelevant guff.

Try responding to what you were actually asked for a change. Which was:
Do you think UK newspapers are biased in their reporting?

Re: Sam Burgess Union debut : Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:57 am  

gutterfax wrote:

Do you seriously believe that a sport that is played professionally along 1 stretch of motorway has any right to be called "national"?
Quins get 82k because they create the event then market it......it then gets reported because its a big event. The Aviva gets a bigger average attendance than sl and us propped up bu the juggernaut that is the international game.......their London double header is well attended and sarries are back at Wembley soon.......all this builds a hype and the media cover it. The idea that the media refuse to cover a sport to deliver some agenda is insane. Supply and demand dictate what the press print.........if there was a demand for league it would be met. There isn't!
The chip on the shoulder of many so called rl fans is what more often than not is the reason the game is held back where it is.

We all know what you think. What pisses us off is your willingness to push it down everyone's throat even when it's not remotely linked with anything else that's been said. You've made your point: give us all a rest please.

Re: Sam Burgess Union debut : Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:02 am  

Him wrote:

You see, once again, you've gone off on one of your flights of fancy with a load of irrelevant guff.

Try responding to what you were actually asked for a change. Which was:
Do you think UK newspapers are biased in their reporting?

Nope.
The broadsheet or ex broadsheets write what their demographic audience want to read........this is not bias, but a decision made by the management and editorial staff. The red tops report tits and soccer and the pretentious middle class tabloids aspire to have less red top readers and more broadsheets.
My guff as you refer to it is relevant by the way......you not liking it doesn't make it any less relevant

Re: Sam Burgess Union debut : Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:36 am  

gutterfax wrote:

Nope.
The broadsheet or ex broadsheets write what their demographic audience want to read........this is not bias, but a decision made by the management and editorial staff. The red tops report tits and soccer and the pretentious middle class tabloids aspire to have less red top readers and more broadsheets.
My guff as you refer to it is relevant by the way......you not liking it doesn't make it any less relevant

Newspapers and the media in general, can create hype for any event which can stir the public imagination.
Whether this is RU, Paralympics, Jordan getting married etc, etc.

There is an element of printing what the readers want, The Daily Mail being the best example of a newspaper finding stories to suit it's own agenda but, there is no doubt whatsoever that the media and especially newspaper's have a major influence on the public perception of all aspects of life, including sporting events.

To say that there is not bias is quite ridiculous.

Re: Sam Burgess Union debut : Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:40 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Newspapers and the media in general, can create hype for any event which can stir the public imagination.
Whether this is RU, Paralympics, Jordan getting married etc, etc.

There is an element of printing what the readers want, The Daily Mail being the best example of a newspaper finding stories to suit it's own agenda but, there is no doubt whatsoever that the media and especially newspaper's have a major influence on the public perception of all aspects of life, including sporting events.

To say that there is not bias is quite ridiculous.

Nope. To say that because rl isn't covered in most of the press proves there is bias is ridiculous. Darts gets bigger tv ratings than league, but isn't covered in the press......is there a bias against darts too?

Re: Sam Burgess Union debut : Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:30 am  

gutterfax wrote:

Quins get 82k because they create the event then market it......it then gets reported because its a big event.

So why, when the Super League Grand Final attracts the biggest sporting audience of the weekend anywhere in the Northern Hemisphere, do the Southern based Press completely ignore it or give it a tertiary 40 word report while then offering a double page report on a Union match which attracts less than 10,000?

Re: Sam Burgess Union debut : Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:50 am  

gutterfax wrote:

Nope. To say that because rl isn't covered in most of the press proves there is bias is ridiculous. Darts gets bigger tv ratings than league, but isn't covered in the press......is there a bias against darts too?

In a word, yes.

Darts obviously is not seen as sufficiently newsworthy by the press, yet has mass appeal.
I know this is going off on one slightly but, do you seriously think that our views are not controlled and manipulated by the media and press ????

Re: Sam Burgess Union debut : Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:58 am  

The Avenger wrote:

So why, when the Super League Grand Final attracts the biggest sporting audience of the weekend anywhere in the Northern Hemisphere, do the Southern based Press completely ignore it or give it a tertiary 40 word report while then offering a double page report on a Union match which attracts less than 10,000?

A very good point and one which the RL itself presently seems unable to correct. I'm no expert, but I would have thought the way forward for our PR machine (ha!) would be to outflank the traditional media by more use of social media. The game needs to go viral.

Re: Sam Burgess Union debut : Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:27 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

In a word, yes.

Darts obviously is not seen as sufficiently newsworthy by the press, yet has mass appeal.
I know this is going off on one slightly but, do you seriously think that our views are not controlled and manipulated by the media and press ????

If you believe what you are fed then fine, but i tend to use a multitude of media channels and sources of information before forming an opinion. Claiming 82,000 sheep attend a union game but that 4,000 at Salford are all fans is arrogance deserving of an irb medal.