Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Tue May 06, 2014 7:17 am  

gutterfax wrote:

Good to have you back on the case Billy........


meanwhile, back at the Moonie ranch....
Point of order: This is YOUR THREAD. You felt the need to start it, in some inane attempt to make Billy's 2013 OPUS look flawed, but the moment the attendances slid, you were off quicker than a $5 whores knickers, so don't come the high and mighty "negative only" shizzle......like a great many so called fans of the game on here, you only seem to be a fan when it's going well. At least some of us who freely admit to being negative post regardless of our opinions being proven right or wrong.

As for the "slimy nose" comment........if that's the best you can muster then thank Christ Bill's back on the job

Took a few days to answer... and all you can actually say is that it is ' my thread ' congrats buddy, which I started a week after Williams was locked, and on which you were silent until there were a few bad crowds, I note that William has brought back the dodgy low Catalan attendance to bring the average down, he should make you happy if I didn't

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Tue May 06, 2014 7:37 am  

JonB95 wrote:

Took a few days to answer... and all you can actually say is that it is ' my thread ' congrats buddy, which I started a week after Williams was locked, and on which you were silent until there were a few bad crowds, I note that William has brought back the dodgy low Catalan attendance to bring the average down, he should make you happy if I didn't

your thread. I didn't start it and then stop once the attendances slid........so remarking on when and why I post is a tad irrelevant in the scheme of this topic.
Billy's back with his numbers....you can always counter debate with him, or are you not up to it?

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Tue May 06, 2014 8:24 am  

gutterfax wrote:

so remarking on when and why I post is a tad irrelevant in the scheme of this topic.

No it's not. You and the other clown only appear when there's something negative to focus on and disappear when your constant stream of negative predictions fail to materialise (William Eve more so and he's gone missing more times in the last 10 years than Danny Brough, especially on the Leeds board when Leeds kept winning the GF ).

So you saying it's irrelevant doesn't make it so.

This thread at the moment is showing nothing and won't do for a good few weeks yet. Leeds crowds were down by 3-4% only 2 weeks ago, they're now up by 3% so creaming your knickers over minor drops, like William Eve did 2 weeks ago when he posted the Leeds figures, just makes you look desperate and will probably come back to bite you on the butt cheeks, just like they did for Billy and just like they did for you with your World Cup predictions.

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Tue May 06, 2014 1:55 pm  

Look can we keep the comments on the figures?

Call them good, call them bad, but if you start the name calling on here that is just going to lead to another closed thread.

Please argue the toss over whether it proves something or nothing. But the figures alone are really not an issue. In the big scheme of things the one off dodgy attendance whether that be up or down will not have an impact on the overall season average. For example the 10000 from 2013 for the Hull game. Given it was a round figure it looked suspect. William has a more reasonable figure. (He does far more research than me) I'm fine with that.

I don't need to call him negative he does not need to call me a positive looney.

Play the ball (figures) not the man (poster).

I maybe a raving positive spin doctor but it would only derail a threat to start name calling.

It's a long season, so this thread has the most chance of being derailed. Most threads die after a week due to lack of interest.

I'm fine with William posting the figures I've no reason to think he would change them to suit and agenda.

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Tue May 06, 2014 4:38 pm  

Nice to see the lunatics are back in charge of the asylum again!

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Tue May 06, 2014 5:09 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

Good to have you back on the case Billy.......

Only until the completion of the next round of fixtures. I'll post the Round 12 attendances next week but after that it's the off-season as far as I'm concerned. I shall return around late-August after I've had my fill of bona fide summer sports like cricket and tennis.

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Tue May 06, 2014 5:11 pm  

Regarding the top two clubs Leeds & Wigan, although the crowds are holding up well that’s all they seem to be doing.

Over the last few years their success has been extremely good, what with GF’s & CC’s but my concern is could this be as good as it gets?

Many clubs would love to achieve those attendances year on year & I’m sure the Whipping Boy Rabble can only dream of such figures, however, is there any hope that a club could average 20K in a season, or are we as a game, up to our limits?

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Tue May 06, 2014 5:22 pm  

The Devil's Advocate wrote:

Regarding the top two clubs Leeds & Wigan, although the crowds are holding up well that’s all they seem to be doing.

Over the last few years their success has been extremely good, what with GF’s & CC’s but my concern is could this be as good as it gets?

Many clubs would love to achieve those attendances year on year & I’m sure the Whipping Boy Rabble can only dream of such figures, however, is there any hope that a club could average 20K in a season, or are we as a game, up to our limits?

Short of Leeds and Wigan flogging adult season tickets for around £50 in order to boost their attendances, I doubt it. And we all know the reaction of the modern day fans of heavily discounted SL when those season ticket offers are withdrawn. They disappear faster than Sally Bolton's £5 RLWC tickets!

Leeds attendances peaked in 2004 when they averaged over 17K that season. Apart from a couple of small increases in comparison to the previous year, the overall trajectory since then has been one of slow decline and an overall average loss of over 2K per home game in the decade following.

Good job they won another 5 SL titles, 3 WCC's and appeared in 4 CC finals since then otherwise their steady attendance decline during the same period would have been far more serious.

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Tue May 06, 2014 6:01 pm  

loiner81 wrote:

.... just like they did for you with your World Cup predictions.

Strange
I seem to have had less trouble getting over my 27% incorrect guestimate regarding RLWC attendances than you. I'd seek help of a professional nature if I were you.

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Tue May 06, 2014 6:42 pm  

William Eve wrote:

Short of Leeds and Wigan flogging adult season tickets for around £50 in order to boost their attendances, I doubt it. And we all know the reaction of the modern day fans of heavily discounted SL when those season ticket offers are withdrawn. They disappear faster than Sally Bolton's £5 RLWC tickets!

Leeds attendances peaked in 2004 when they averaged over 17K that season. Apart from a couple of small increases in comparison to the previous year, the overall trajectory since then has been one of slow decline and an overall average loss of over 2K per home game in the decade following.

Good job they won another 5 SL titles, 3 WCC's and appeared in 4 CC finals since then otherwise their steady attendance decline during the same period would have been far more serious.

Bit of a flawed comparison isn't it when we played some teams twice at home back then. Including Bradford when they were good and got over 20,000 for both games. Along with a freakish 17,000+ on the last game vs London due to picking up the LLS I imagine.