Re: 'haven face a winding up order : Fri Sep 03, 2010 12:55 pm  

Richie wrote:

The people of Leigh (not singling them out) don't seem interested in the spectacle of the sport now, would they really be any more interested just because the opposing teams changed?

Another one from the Leigh board , this time from ' Leyth '

My disappointment in the loss last night lasted all of 5 minutes. It doesn't even compare to how I felt when we lost play off games under Paul Terzis and Tony Benson.
One of my greatest Leigh memories is winning on the last day of the season at Warrington, under Billy Benyon, to secure our top flight status.
Under the current system feelings like that can't be reproduced, and when fans lose the ability to feel passionate about their team, its just another nail in the coffin of lower tier RL

I attended NL 1 GF,s as a neutral when promotion was at stake , I saw fans crying both in joy and dissapointement , I witnessed none of that last year , and doubt I will this year

Re: 'haven face a winding up order : Fri Sep 03, 2010 12:56 pm  

Starbug wrote:

Probably not

Especially if they are Hunslet , York or Blackpool

Saints , Wigan and Wire might get them going a bit more

Why? Would they really be more entertained watching their team getting spanked by Bradford than seeing a tight contest with Sheffield?

Re: 'haven face a winding up order : Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:04 pm  

Richie wrote:

Why? Would they really be more entertained watching their team getting spanked by Bradford than seeing a tight contest with Sheffield?

Probably not , but those wins against London and Wakey , and Ganson robbing us of a point against Hull could possibly make up for it

Re: 'haven face a winding up order : Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:16 pm  

Starbug wrote:

Probably not , but those wins against London and Wakey , and Ganson robbing us of a point against Hull could possibly make up for it

I still don't get it Starbug. From the sounds of things, everything that has been done to open up the game and make it a more appealing spectacle is irrelevant, and all fans are bothered about is who the opposition are?

Re: 'haven face a winding up order : Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:21 pm  

Richie wrote:

I still don't get it Starbug. From the sounds of things, everything that has been done to open up the game and make it a more appealing spectacle is irrelevant, and all fans are bothered about is who the opposition are?

You dont get it do you , it is sport , emotion , tribal controlled violence

Why do we like,love,need sport ?

Basically to stop us killing each other

An appealling spectacle

You are right , you really dont get ' it '

Re: 'haven face a winding up order : Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:30 pm  

Starbug wrote:

You dont get it do you , it is sport , emotion , tribal controlled violence

Why do we like,love,need sport ?

Basically to stop us killing each other

An appealling spectacle

You are right , you really dont get ' it '

So why rugby league then? I understand the POV even if I don't agree with it. But why is it rugby league the fans do (or don't....how many prefer Leigh RMI or whatever they're called nowadays) watch? If it's just this "sport , emotion , tribal controlled violence" then it could as easily by soccer, RU, ice hockey or anything.

Re: 'haven face a winding up order : Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:31 pm  

Starbug wrote:

I'll reply with this post from waterfields finest on the Leigh board discussing the same subject at the moment

I'd like to see the results of a survey on the actuall ages of the fan bases outside SL ?

I remember when Huddersfield came down in 2001 , we played them at the McAlpine [ as was ] I remarked at the time that there were very few children in the home crowd , and that we quite possibly outnumbered them

This is one of the reasons I dont want leigh to get a franchise , a potential 3 year holiday at the bottom of SL would kill a whole generation of support , were as 1 year in normal P and R would not

but hey ho , we have what we have , and what will be will be

I brought this point up on ages on your board in pre season when I was having my 'Leigh board' holiday and was laughed out of the place.
Dont start pretending its a fair comment now.

Re: 'haven face a winding up order : Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:36 pm  

Leaguefan wrote:

Any game where one of the top clubs announces a deficit 10 times the amount that drove another club to the wall and dosn't bat an eyelid is on a downward spiral.

But hey it'll all turn out right in the end.

Don't forget another sport has a new sponsor , is on another subsciption channel, and is getting bucket loads of media intest except probably from the previous broadcaster ( NRL anyone?)

If a broadcaster decides it dosn't want to pay the same amount for a product but less for more ( M& S were/are renowned for doing that) then the game will survive but no way in its' current form.

The next 12-18 months are crucial to the state of professional RL in this country.

As things stand at the moment I am not sure that the foundations are that strong and the edifice could come tumbling down.

We shall see.

Will putting in Keighley Cougars solve this problem?

Re: 'haven face a winding up order : Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:42 pm  

Richie wrote:

So why rugby league then? I understand the POV even if I don't agree with it. But why is it rugby league the fans do (or don't....how many prefer Leigh RMI or whatever they're called nowadays) watch? If it's just this "sport , emotion , tribal controlled violence" then it could as easily by soccer, RU, ice hockey or anything.

Plenty do prefer football, they might not necessarily watch Leigh Genesis but the pubs are packed for football games on the box, and there are thousands in Leigh who have season tickets at Bolton, Wigan, Man Utd & Man City. I don't think there would be too many Bolton or Latics fans had franchising been brought in to football and left them consigned to the lower leagues for all eternity in the way that RL clubs are perceived to be.

Re: 'haven face a winding up order : Fri Sep 03, 2010 3:31 pm  

Leyther_Matt wrote:

Plenty do prefer football, they might not necessarily watch Leigh Genesis but the pubs are packed for football games on the box, and there are thousands in Leigh who have season tickets at Bolton, Wigan, Man Utd & Man City. I don't think there would be too many Bolton or Latics fans had franchising been brought in to football and left them consigned to the lower leagues for all eternity in the way that RL clubs are perceived to be.

Well we know football fans don't go to watch the spectacle of the game itself, because it's always poor. Never has anything been as incorrectly named as "The Beautiful Game"

Why is it franchising is always seen as "consigning to the lower leagues for all eternity" which it never has been.
It's simply a way of requiring more than a single set of results from a single team to decide the league a club play in.