Re: widdop : Sun Oct 24, 2010 2:14 pm  

The Curtism wrote:

He had to cover his position and the wing last season. Surrounded by better players he'll dominate.

No he wont Clubb is complete and utter garbage and shouldn't even be talked about playing for England let alone be in the squad.

Re: widdop : Sun Oct 24, 2010 2:42 pm  

It would be a brave call to play Clubby at Centre against the Aussies-and that coming from a Quins fan!

Re: widdop : Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:46 pm  

I'd go with :

1 S. Tomkins
2 Goulding (Briscoe if Hall is fit)
3 O'Loughlin (Shenton if he is fit)
4 Widdop
5 Briscoe (Hall if he is fit)
6 Brown
7 Robinson

8 Fielden
9 Roby
10 Graham
11 Ellis
12 Westwood (Burgess if Shenton is fit)
13 Burgess (O'Loughlin if Shenton is fit)

14 Lunt
15 J. Tomkins (Westwood if Shenton is fit)
16 Crabtree
17 Griffin

Looked more dangerous with Tomkins at full back and Robinson at scrum half. Thought Widdop was poor at full back but decent at centre alot better than Atkins, keep him there.

Re: widdop : Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:58 pm  

FC Callum wrote:

I'd go with :

1 S. Tomkins
2 Goulding (Briscoe if Hall is fit)
3 O'Loughlin (Shenton if he is fit)
4 Widdop
5 Briscoe (Hall if he is fit)
6 Brown
7 Robinson

8 Fielden
9 Roby
10 Graham
11 Ellis
12 Westwood (Burgess if Shenton is fit)
13 Burgess (O'Loughlin if Shenton is fit)

14 Lunt
15 J. Tomkins (Westwood if Shenton is fit)
16 Crabtree
17 Griffin

Looked more dangerous with Tomkins at full back and Robinson at scrum half. Thought Widdop was poor at full back but decent at centre alot better than Atkins, keep him there.

I wouldnt keep our two fit centres in the stand. Widdop is an inexperienced full back, to play him in the centres against the Aussies is a recipe for disaster. Ryan Atkins was poor and is capable of playing a lot better and has to be included in the weekends team.

If Tony Clubb does not play in front of moving Widdop or O'Loughlin then he should not have been named in the squad.

Re: widdop : Wed Oct 27, 2010 1:14 pm  

Risky in the centres but I think I would go:

S Tomkins
R Atkins
D Goulding
L Cudjoe
T Briscoe
K Brown
L Robinson
J Graham
S Lunt
S Fielden
G Ellis
J Tomkins
S O'Loughlin

J Roby
S Burgess
B Westwood
E Crabtree

Much more oomph off the bench and we need to score points to win the game on Saturday - we won't do that by playing back rowers in the centres (possible exception of J Tomkins).

Re: widdop : Wed Oct 27, 2010 1:23 pm  

I like the look of that, but the Atkins, Goulding wing could be very fragile defensivly. The rest of the squad I like though.

Re: widdop : Wed Oct 27, 2010 1:53 pm  

Too much hype around Widdop, he's a good player with potential but that's about it. Tomkins would be my preferred fullback with the Hudds pair in the halves.

Re: widdop : Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:34 pm  

S.Tomkins ----- S.Tomkins
Briscoe -------- Briscoe
Ellis ----------- Widdop
J.Tomkins ----- Goulding
Goulding ------- Hall/Cudjoe
Widdop -------- Brown
Robinson ------ Robinson
Graham ------- Graham
Lunt ---------- Roby
Fielden -------- Fielden
Westwood ----- Ellis
Burgess ------- Burgess
O'loughlin ----- O'loughlin

Roby ---------- Lunt
Crabtree ------ Crabtree
Griffin --------- Griffin
Harrison ------- J.Tomkins


Team i'd like on left ( Second rowers in centres, both fast enough and will help Widdop and Robinson defensively as they could both be caught out at times. Plenty of pace aswell out wide and Ellis and Tomkins both run better lines than any of the centres in the squad. ) Team i expect is on the right though and for me has far more weaknesses.

Re: widdop : Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:38 pm  

Also i think McNamara missed a trick not taking Michael Lawrence, he's great defensively and helps Cudjoe. Whereas Cudjoe has that extra bit of class/magic in attack to make them dangerous as a pairing. That could of been one side of the backs sorted and potentially for years especially with them having understanding of each others games from playing week in week out alongside each other.

Re: widdop : Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:55 pm  

the Cudjoe/Lawrence pairing is shaping up to be one of real quality, this tour will have helped Cudjoe and next season I would hope to see both of them in contention for an England shirt as a wing/centre partnership.