Re: Stadium Developments : Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:21 pm  

deeHell wrote:

According to Dickie Wrights letter in todays Cas and Pont it's Full PP. Quite a major detail change.

Not a detail change - never has either ever been said, but just 'planning consent'. Only the deluded Cas posters on here could have ever believed that it meant OPP!

Anyone reading RW's statements form a nuetral point of view would have seen that it was never a forgone conclusion. In fact I'd be concerned about Opus themselves as from their own statement it looks as though they didn't know the land was on a flood plain until quite recently. Also I can't find any reference to completed/in progress retail developments on their website despite RW's assertions that they have lots of experience in this area?

Also there appears to be no support for the project from the town centre traders despite assurances that there was.

Re: Stadium Developments : Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:30 pm  

All the info on our new stadium. http://www.salfordcitystadium.com/ Latest picture of the West Stand (Please ignore blue seats) http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=456590&start=1940

All the info on our new stadium. http://www.salfordcitystadium.com/ Latest picture of the West Stand (Please ignore blue seats) http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=456590&start=1940

Re: Stadium Developments : Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:32 pm  

"Also there appears to be no support for the project from the town centre traders despite assurances that there was."

So - if there is no support from the town centre traders why did most of them agree to use their premises to collect signatures for the stadium petition ?

Re: Stadium Developments : Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:20 pm  

Tigerade wrote:

So - if there is no support from the town centre traders why did most of them agree to use their premises to collect signatures for the stadium petition ?

Maybe so they didn’t get their windows smashed, by the hardliners .

Re: Stadium Developments : Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:13 pm  

Tigerade wrote: "Also there appears to be no support for the project from the town centre traders despite assurances that there was." So - if there is no support from the town centre traders why did most of them agree to use their premises to collect signatures for the stadium petition ? http://www.pontefractandcastlefordexpre ... _1_3910927

Tigerade wrote: "Also there appears to be no support for the project from the town centre traders despite assurances that there was." So - if there is no support from the town centre traders why did most of them agree to use their premises to collect signatures for the stadium petition ? http://www.pontefractandcastlefordexpre ... _1_3910927

Re: Stadium Developments : Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:51 pm  

Mr Dog wrote:

In fact I'd be concerned about Opus themselves as from their own statement it looks as though they didn't know the land was on a flood plain until quite recently.

Ok, this news is out in the open now, I haven't seen the statement!

To be fair to Opus, I understand that this information has come out of work they have been doing on the development recently and when the topographical information came back it was worked out that the 100 year flood level is above the current level by 2m or so! This is not something they would have known without starting to do some work on the project, as it is not on a flood plain as such. This probably means that if they do build a store here, it will end up on stilts. This means more parking (as they won't waste the space), but much more development cost which Opus might have to pass on to Tesco to make things stack up.

Re: Stadium Developments : Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:41 pm  

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That North East terracing went in mighty quick, they only started putting it in on Wednesday.

Re: Stadium Developments : Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:53 pm  

Wigan Peer wrote:

MOT wrote:

How much will it add to the capacity the extensions to HJ?

Won't matter as they can't fill it as is...

Yep, it was certainly far from full when Wigan came for their SEMI FINAL

Re: Stadium Developments : Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:09 pm  

Inflatable_Armadillo wrote:

Ok, this news is out in the open now, I haven't seen the statement!

To be fair to Opus, I understand that this information has come out of work they have been doing on the development recently and when the topographical information came back it was worked out that the 100 year flood level is above the current level by 2m or so! This is not something they would have known without starting to do some work on the project, as it is not on a flood plain as such. This probably means that if they do build a store here, it will end up on stilts. This means more parking (as they won't waste the space), but much more development cost which Opus might have to pass on to Tesco to make things stack up.

Nor have I seen such a statement from Opus.

You know as well as I do that anyone proposing such a development would be aware of this from stage one - it's common knowledge. The 1 in 100 year flood level is without any defences in place. There are such defences in place because of the Chemical site. But lets assume you are correct and Tesco/Morrison/Sainsbury or whoever have to raise the building above a car park, that would increase the parking (good thing)without a lot of extra expense.

The alternative site for a Supermarket in the town has been approved for nearly 5 years without takers. The floor area is approx 25% less than Wheldon Road and involves the construction of a 5 and 7 storey building including car parking, approx 80 residential units and other retail units.

I know if I was Tesco or whoever, and wanted to locate to Cas for least cost in the next 12/18 months, which site I would be pushing for.

With regard to the Clan's post of the article in the press from a local shopping manager - let's just say he (the manager) is only "following orders" from his superiors.

Re: Stadium Developments : Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:19 pm  

bigalf wrote:

.... There are such defences in place because of the Chemical site.

Yet the developers of the chemical site are potentially looking at raising the ground level by 2-3m.

bigalf wrote:

But lets assume you are correct and Tesco/Morrison/Sainsbury or whoever have to raise the building above a car park, that would increase the parking (good thing)without a lot of extra expense.

Piling, reinforced floors... yeah, that'll come cheap

bigalf wrote:

The alternative site for a Supermarket in the town has been approved for nearly 5 years without takers.

Have you ever thought that it could be because no one actually wants to build one in Cas? There's already 4 supermarkets in the town. That's a pretty saturated market for a population of ca37,000.