Re: Ben Flower : Sat Oct 11, 2014 6:05 pm  

Bal wrote:

Hohia would never have walked for his part, no where near a red card offence. However he should have received a yellow card imo, and likely would have if not for Flowers shocking actions completely distracting everybody from it.

Again I want to stress I'm not defending Flower as it was one of the wrist I've seen on a rugby pitch.

But how is running over to someone and elbowing them in the head off the ball not a sending off offence?

Re: Ben Flower : Sat Oct 11, 2014 6:05 pm  

Reacting was fair enough but the punch of the floor was horrible but i don't think flower realised he knocked him out.

Long ban no doubt anybody who thinks different are allowing their bias to come before rational thoughts, as of the poster trying to say because there is a WCC coming up are just being stupid Jeff Lima was suspend for a lot less.

Re: Ben Flower : Sat Oct 11, 2014 6:06 pm  

FlexWheeler wrote:

Yeah this isn't the movies where people can punch each other with no damage. In real life, people die.

Too true. And it's not just the impact of the punch, it's the head slamming into the ground which does the real damage.

Re: Ben Flower : Sat Oct 11, 2014 6:06 pm  

dubairl wrote:

Reacting was fair enough but the punch of the floor was horrible but i don't think flower realised he knocked him out.

He was motionless on the floor as flower pulled his fist back. He must have known.

Re: Ben Flower : Sat Oct 11, 2014 6:08 pm  

FlexWheeler wrote:

Yeah this isn't the movies where people can punch each other with no damage. In real life, people die.

Totally right, and we as a sport have dodged a bullet with Lance able to come away from the assault it seems pretty unscathed.

A 20 Stone man punching from at a unconscious man from that position is unbelievably dangerous.

Re: Ben Flower : Sat Oct 11, 2014 6:11 pm  

I bet Wane would have accepted 12 vs 13 for Hohaia missing the whole match and Saints being left with no playmakers...win at all costs and all that.

His Wigan are a thoroughly unlikable team

Re: Ben Flower : Sat Oct 11, 2014 6:12 pm  

tenerifeRhino wrote:

Totally right, and we as a sport have dodged a bullet with Lance able to come away from the assault it seems pretty unscathed.

A 20 Stone man punching from at a unconscious man from that position is unbelievably dangerous.

It is scary to think of what the potential outcomes of that was. Without wanting to sound too dramatic as it was unlikely, it could have been a very dark day for sport. And he has to be as severly punished as possible for introducing that risk.

Re: Ben Flower : Sat Oct 11, 2014 6:12 pm  

Wanes HT team talk consisted of " open season boys, he wont send another off "

They already could have had somebody in the bin

Re: Ben Flower : Sat Oct 11, 2014 6:13 pm  

You can't punch a guy who is out on the floor. It's just not even a sporting incident. I'm not one for big long bans but this is just outside the realms of the sport it's so dangerous

Re: Ben Flower : Sat Oct 11, 2014 6:15 pm  

Eastbourne Warrior wrote:

Again I want to stress I'm not defending Flower as it was one of the wrist I've seen on a rugby pitch.

But how is running over to someone and elbowing them in the head off the ball not a sending off offence?

BECAUSE FLOWER HAD ALREADY SWUNG A PUNCH AT HIM