Re: Lance Hohaia retires : Fri May 01, 2015 12:21 am  

Oh look, Mugchump's on the sauce again.

Mugwump wrote:

Is this a sentence?

Only to those who can comprehend English.

You have no idea what Hohaia's brain did or did not absorb.

Hence the question at the top. Is the claim factually correct or not? You clearly have no idea.

An apple is about as far away from a human brain in form and function as yours is.

I'd say yours is pretty similar, and has been heading that way for some time.

You read as well!? What - "Apple Injuries For Dummies"?

I do! Occasionally from Mugchump's approved list of conspiracy authors - not that I approve of course. My brain isn't an apple.

Are you denying acceleration-deceleration is (apparently) the main cause of brain trauma? Or do you know better?

Oh, I forgot, Hohaia was a Saints player. Flower is a Wigan player. In your practically cider brain he should probably face a firing squad.

Re: Lance Hohaia retires : Fri May 01, 2015 12:47 am  

Cronus wrote:

Oh look, Mugchump's on the sauce again.

Only to those who can comprehend English.

Hence the question at the top. Is the claim factually correct or not? You clearly have no idea.

I'd say yours is pretty similar, and has been heading that way for some time.

I do! Occasionally from Mugchump's approved list of conspiracy authors - not that I approve of course. My brain isn't an apple.

Are you denying acceleration-deceleration is (apparently) the main cause of brain trauma? Or do you know better?

Oh, I forgot, Hohaia was a Saints player. Flower is a Wigan player. In your practically cider brain he should probably face a firing squad.

Nope ... you've sent me to sleep already.

Re: Lance Hohaia retires : Fri May 01, 2015 12:52 am  

Cronus wrote:

Oh look, Mugchump's on the sauce again.

Mugwump wrote:

Nope ... you've sent me to sleep already.

Jesus wept....if the supposed overseers act like you two, what hope for the rest of this board

Re: Lance Hohaia retires : Fri May 01, 2015 12:55 am  

Jim Pooley wrote:

Jesus wept....if the supposed overseers act like you two, what hope for the rest of this board

But ... but ... HE started it!

Re: Lance Hohaia retires : Fri May 01, 2015 1:08 am  

Mugwump wrote:

But ... but ... HE started it!

There's always one

Re: Lance Hohaia retires : Fri May 01, 2015 1:12 am  

Firstly, it's sad that LH is leaving this way but it is the best decision all things considered.

Second, headguards are not the solution, there are plenty of reasons why, if you check out why boxing removed them from the amateur game, why cycle helmets don't work for all but low end scrapes and bruises & why in the US there are thousands upon thousands of ex-NFL players with long term brain injuries you'll find out why.

Thirdly, the 2nd punch from BF is the least damaging of the two (IMO), certainly from the force of the impact (coupe) and the amount the brain moves (contrecoupe) compared to the first punch.
In the first punch (the 'knockout' punch), not only is there greater force imparted but also the amount the brain will have moved/rotated (comparatively to the 2nd punch) this lends itself to greater risk of diffuse axonal injury, that's the type of force injury that is the highest cause of brain damage.
as opposed to just a direct blow with little head movement.
That's not to say the 2nd punch didn't do any damage but by comparison his head moves less (Less brain rotation) and the physical strike is with less force.
Certainly going by the obvious effects of the first and what damage occurs from certain situations (from a factual medical POV)it is the lesser of the two.

Re: Lance Hohaia retires : Fri May 01, 2015 2:29 am  

knockersbumpMKII wrote:

Firstly, it's sad that LH is leaving this way but it is the best decision all things considered.

Second, headguards are not the solution, there are plenty of reasons why, if you check out why boxing removed them from the amateur game, why cycle helmets don't work for all but low end scrapes and bruises & why in the US there are thousands upon thousands of ex-NFL players with long term brain injuries you'll find out why.

Thirdly, the 2nd punch from BF is the least damaging of the two (IMO), certainly from the force of the impact (coupe) and the amount the brain moves (contrecoupe) compared to the first punch.
In the first punch (the 'knockout' punch), not only is there greater force imparted but also the amount the brain will have moved/rotated (comparatively to the 2nd punch) this lends itself to greater risk of diffuse axonal injury, that's the type of force injury that is the highest cause of brain damage.
as opposed to just a direct blow with little head movement.
That's not to say the 2nd punch didn't do any damage but by comparison his head moves less (Less brain rotation) and the physical strike is with less force.
Certainly going by the obvious effects of the first and what damage occurs from certain situations (from a factual medical POV)it is the lesser of the two.

Insane and insular post......well done you

Re: Lance Hohaia retires : Fri May 01, 2015 3:34 am  

Jim Pooley wrote:

Insane and insular post......well done you

Insular AND insane
Aside from your obvious inability to post something intelligent I'll give you a second bite at trying to explain your viewpoint and why you disagree...away you go sonny

Re: Lance Hohaia retires : Fri May 01, 2015 9:55 am  

Say a boxer has to retire from something like that, does everyone point the finger at the last guy he fought?

Don't come on here with all that sensible talk.

In Boxing you accept you will be punched in the head(albeit when stood up, conscious by someone with padded gloves on with a ref overseeing proceedings). In RL it is against the rules to be punched (when conscious) not once but for a second time in the head when unconscious on the floor. Do you see the difference?

Do that on a high street and you are facing prison and possible civil charges for damages.

Re: Lance Hohaia retires : Fri May 01, 2015 10:52 am  

wire-quin wrote:

In Boxing you accept you will be punched in the head(albeit when stood up, conscious by someone with padded gloves on with a ref overseeing proceedings). In RL it is against the rules to be punched (when conscious) not once but for a second time in the head when unconscious on the floor. Do you see the difference?

Do that on a high street and you are facing prison and possible civil charges for damages.

possibly - however if the whole thing had happened on the street would both involved parties not be arrested. Lance elbowed flower in the head, would that not be classed as assault?