Re: 2013 replicas : Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:30 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

the top 20 lowest attendances in the SL competition at the JJB/DW stadium since 2008.....London feature twice blowing your argument about lost revenue out of the water....
2011 Catalans 6,790
2012 Catalans 7,232
2009 Castleford 8,689
2010 Hull KR 11,133
2008 Quins RL 11,453
2009 Catalans 11,543
2009 Salford 11,550
2009 Hudd 11,670
2010 Catalans 12,001
2009 Castleford 12,079
2010 Leeds 12,177
2008 Hudd 12,216
2010 Salford 12,221
2008 Wakefield 12,319
2012 Leeds 12,334
2009 Celtic 12,371
2010 Hull KR 12,429
2009 Hull FC 12,491
2009 Bradford 12,588
2012 London 12,608

BTW, we appear once in the top 20 atendances at Wigan over the same period...Salford, Wakefield and Catalan don't......is it only a matter of time for them as well?

More useless facts I suspect

So many flaws with that statistic..

[Matt_Horton]

Re: 2013 replicas : Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:54 pm  

Moving Forward wrote:

And Leeds claim to have the best fans in the world

Both were play off games......

Re: 2013 replicas : Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:04 pm  

JonB95 wrote:

So many flaws with that statistic..

Really?
I stated they wereall SL games...they were. I fail to see the flaw?
Ah.......you're going to roll out the "regular season v play-off" stance....good luck with that.

Surely end of season one-off knock out games will attract more fans than a boring, nobody cares about them,they don't belong in our game London Broncos match?

Remember, I was answering a comment that we were the lesser draw card toWigan during the season.....but feel free to carryon digging where the other flatcapper gave up!

Re: 2013 replicas : Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:07 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

Surely end of season one-off knock out games will attract more fans than a boring, nobody cares about them,they don't belong in our game London Broncos match?

Sure, they should. But they don't. Play-off games pretty much always draw lower crowds than any fixtures in the regular season.

I'm not saying I agree with the 'other flat capper' (not sure why you feel the need to call me that) but the evidence you used to prove your point is utter garbage.

You see those two lowest crowds, the Catalan playoff games? If Wigan had played London, the crowd would have been equally low and probably lower. And no, I don't have the stats to back that up.

Re: 2013 replicas : Tue Jan 15, 2013 8:50 pm  

JonB95 wrote:

And no, I don't have the stats to back that up.

I do though!
2008-2012 at the JJB/DW Stadium. 72 games less 7 play off ties now removed is 5 seasons at 13 home games = 65.

Top 20 worst attended games......London are there 3 times (top 10 they're only there once)and not occupyng the top 5 spots as the original flatcapper was alluding to.

Jun 27th 2008 Quins RL 11,453
Jul 10th 2009 Catalans 11,543
Jun 5th 2009 Salford 11,550
Mar 27th 2009 Hudds 11,670
Feb 26th 2010 Catalans 12,001
Feb 20th 2009 Castleford 12,079
Jul 25th 2008 Hudds 12,216
Jul 9th 2010 Salford 12,221
Aug 15th 2008 Wakefield 12,319
Apr 19th 2009 Celtic 12,371
Feb 12th 2010 Hull KR 12,429
Sep 4th 2009 Hull FC 12,491
Mar 7th 2009 Bradford 12,588
Mar 18th 2012 London 12,608
May 13th 2011 Quins RL 12,813
Aug 1st 2008 Hull FC 12,842
Mar 28th 2008 Wakefield 12,933
Apr 11th 2008 Catalans 13,044
Jul 15th 2011 Wakefield 13,095
Jul 6th 2011 Castleford 13,096

You attempted to rubbish the earlier stats because of play-off games...I have removed them and STILL shown that London are not on average the worst draw card for games at the JJB/DW Stadium

Put your shovel down lad!

Re: 2013 replicas : Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:53 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

I do though!
2008-2012 at the JJB/DW Stadium. 72 games less 7 play off ties now removed is 5 seasons at 13 home games = 65.

Top 20 worst attended games......London are there 3 times (top 10 they're only there once)and not occupyng the top 5 spots as the original flatcapper was alluding to.

Jun 27th 2008 Quins RL 11,453
Jul 10th 2009 Catalans 11,543
Jun 5th 2009 Salford 11,550
Mar 27th 2009 Hudds 11,670
Feb 26th 2010 Catalans 12,001
Feb 20th 2009 Castleford 12,079
Jul 25th 2008 Hudds 12,216
Jul 9th 2010 Salford 12,221
Aug 15th 2008 Wakefield 12,319
Apr 19th 2009 Celtic 12,371
Feb 12th 2010 Hull KR 12,429
Sep 4th 2009 Hull FC 12,491
Mar 7th 2009 Bradford 12,588
Mar 18th 2012 London 12,608
May 13th 2011 Quins RL 12,813
Aug 1st 2008 Hull FC 12,842
Mar 28th 2008 Wakefield 12,933
Apr 11th 2008 Catalans 13,044
Jul 15th 2011 Wakefield 13,095
Jul 6th 2011 Castleford 13,096

You attempted to rubbish the earlier stats because of play-off games...I have removed them and STILL shown that London are not on average the worst draw card for games at the JJB/DW Stadium

Put your shovel down lad!

You do realise that in 2009 and 2010 ticket prices for the Wigan - Quins game were cut severely. Wigan have often used this tactic for games that are expected to have a particularly low crowd, to attract kids and sponsors.

I'm not sure how this is proving your point.

Re: 2013 replicas : Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:07 am  

JonB95 wrote:

You do realise that in 2009 and 2010 ticket prices for the Wigan - Quins game were cut severely. Wigan have often used this tactic for games that are expected to have a particularly low crowd, to attract kids and sponsors.

I'm not sure how this is proving your point.

ah....so now, when faced with yet more facts, you claim ticket prices were "severely" cut

If London are a team nobody is interested in, then it makes no difference if tickets are a fiver or 20 notes....surely nobody would attend anyway?

Top 40 worst attendances and London appear 4 times...

Re: 2013 replicas : Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:21 am  

gutterfax wrote:

ah....so now, when faced with yet more facts, you claim ticket prices were "severely" cut

If London are a team nobody is interested in, then it makes no difference if tickets are a fiver or 20 notes....surely nobody would attend anyway?

Top 40 worst attendances and London appear 4 times...

Not really a claim though is it? It's known that they've had Heinz in for one of these games on cheap tickets, filling the North Stand. Unless you think they were all Quins fans are came specifically to see them, I think even you won't be so naive to accept that it's because of this that the crowd was as high as it was.

If there are cheap tickets on the go and people accept then, it doesn't mean they have an interest in the away team. It's far more likely that it's because they have an interest in the home team and want to take advantage of a good deal regardless of the opposition.

Re: 2013 replicas : Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:53 am  

gutterfax wrote:

ah....so now, when faced with yet more facts, you claim ticket prices were "severely" cut

If London are a team nobody is interested in, then it makes no difference if tickets are a fiver or 20 notes....surely nobody would attend anyway?

Top 40 worst attendances and London appear 4 times...

It isn't a claim? I myself got a a free ticket for the north stand for a London game, I believe it may have been 2009 or 2010.

Re: 2013 replicas : Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:07 am  

Can someone please post a picture of a kit to get this thread back on track? Any kit!