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SL Round 27 attendances - comparison to same fixtures last year

Wigan V Warrington in 2014 = 15,656
Wigan V Warrington in 2013 = 20,050
% decrease = -21.92%

Hull V Leeds in 2014 = 11,964
Hull V Leeds in 2013 = 11,901
% increase = +0.53%

Salford V Widnes in 2014 = 3,268
Salford V Widnes in 2013 = 3,775
% decrease = -13.43%

Huddersfield V St Helens in 2014 = 7,244
Huddersfield V St Helens in 2013 = 5,203
% increase = +39.23%

London V Bradford in 2014 = 1,402
London V Bradford in 2013 = 1,441
% decrease = -2.71%

Catalans V Castleford in 2014 = 6,195
Catalans V Castleford in 2013 = 7,083
% decrease = -12.53%

Wakefield V Hull KR in 2014 = 4,481
Wakefield V Hull KR in 2013 = 9,237
% decrease = 51.49%

Total Attendance in SL Round 27 = 50,210 (Avg: 7,173)
Total Attendance same fixtures last year = 58,690 (Avg: 8,384)
% decrease = -14.48%


2 out of 7 fixtures in Round 26 have shown an increase in attendance compared to the same SL fixtures last year. 5 out of 7 fixtures in Round 26 have shown a decrease in attendance compared to the same SL fixtures last year.

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SL Round 27 attendances (V corresponding 7 fixtures 2009-2013)
SL 2014.. Round 27 total = 50,210
SL 2013... same fixtures = 58,690 -14.48%
SL 2012... same fixtures = 66,278 -24.24%
SL 2011... same fixtures = 65,059 -22.82% **
SL 2010... same fixtures = 68,158 -26.33% **
SL 2009... same fixtures = 58,186 -13.71% **

NOTE...** except replace Widnes with Crusaders

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Regular Season SL Attendances by Round in 2014 V Corresponding Fixtures in 2013

Round 1 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 71,744 (Avg: 10,249)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 66,109 (Avg: 9,444)
% increase = +8.52%

Round 2 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 58,829 (Avg: 8,404)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 59,229 (Avg: 8,461)
% decrease = -0.67%

Round 3 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 52,641 (Avg: 7,520)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 53,062 (Avg: 7,580)
% decrease = -0.79%

Round 4 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 51,246 (Avg: 7,321)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 52,108 (Avg: 7,444)
% decrease = -1.65%

Round 5 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 62,477 (Avg: 8,925)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 56,276 (Avg: 8,039)
% increase = +11.02%

Round 6 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 59.174 (Avg: 8,453)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 63,482 (Avg: 9,069)
% decrease = -6.79%

Round 7 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 55,493 (Avg: 7,928)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 58,746 (Avg: 8,392)
% decrease = -5.54%

Round 8 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 65,161 (Avg: 9,309)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 73,890 (Avg: 10,556)
% decrease = -11.81%

Round 9 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 60,012 (Avg: 8,573)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 55,814 (Avg: 11,692)
% increase = +7.52%

Round 10 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 68,989 (Avg: 9,856)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 75,178 (Avg: 10,740)
% decrease = -8.23%

Round 11 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 65,872 (Avg: 9,410)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 64,275 (Avg: 9,182)
% increase = +2.48%

Round 12 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 43,998 (Avg: 6,285)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 48,131 (Avg: 6,876)
% decrease = -8.59%

Round 13 (MOONIE TRAGIC WEEKEND) Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 64,552 (Avg: 9,222)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 62,042 (Avg: 8,863)
% increase = +4.04%

Round 14 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 52,774 (Avg: 7,539)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 59,216 (Avg: 8,459)
% decrease = -10.88%

Round 15 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 46,134 (Avg: 6,591)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 47,814 (Avg: 6,831)
% decrease = -3.51%

Round 16 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 51,644 (Avg: 7,378)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 62,354 (Avg: 8,908)
% decrease = -17.18%

Round 17 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 52,105 (Avg: 7,444)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 56,413 (Avg: 8,059)
% decrease = -7.64%

Round 18 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 64,595 (Avg: 9,228)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 75,100 (Avg: 10,729)
% decrease = -13.99%

Round 19 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 41,747 (Avg: 5,964)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 50,313 (Avg: 7,188)
% decrease = -17.01%

Round 20 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 53,972 (Avg: 7,710)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 57,667 (Avg: 8,238)
% decrease = -6.41%

Round 21 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 60,229 (Avg: 8,604)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 63,343 (Avg: 9,049)
% decrease = -4.92%

Round 22 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 48,617 (Avg: 6,945)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 52,563 (Avg: 7,509)
% decrease = -7.51%

Round 23 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 61,080 (Avg: 8,726)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 67,864 (Avg: 9,695)
% decrease = -10.00%

Round 24 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 41,951 (Avg: 5,993)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 47,481 (Avg: 6,783)
% decrease = -11.65%

Round 25 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 69,297 (Avg: 9,900)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 71,292 (Avg: 10,185)
% decrease = -2.80%

Round 26 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 65,789 (Avg: 9,398)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 61,259 (Avg: 8,751)
% increase = +7.39%

Round 27 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2014 = 50,210 (Avg: 7,173)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2013 = 58,690 (Avg: 8,384)
% decrease = -14.48%

Rounds 1 to 27 Fixtures (189 in total)
Total attendance for 182 fixtures + 7 Tragic fixtures in 2014 = 1,540,332 (Avg: 8,150)
Total attendance for same 182 fixtures + 7 Tragic fixtures in 2013 = 1,619,701 (Avg: 8,570)
Cumulative attendance loss = -79,369
% decrease = -4.90%


Out of 182 fixtures played throughout the regular season in 2014, 70 out of 182 have shown an increase in attendance compared to the corresponding SL fixtures last year. 112 out of 182 fixtures have shown a decrease in attendance compared to the corresponding SL fixtures last year.

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4 SL clubs attendances were up on last season.
10 SL clubs attendances were down on last season.

Club... Games... 2014... 2013... %gain/loss
Salford... 13... 58691... 40622... +44.48%
Castleford... 13... 91885... 81979... +12.08%
St Helens... 13... 156664... 147483... +6.23%
Hull KR... 13... 102022... 97430... +4.71%
Huddersfield... 13... 82361... 82790... -0.52%
Leeds... 13... 195880... 197556... -0.85%
Wigan... 13... 183321... 189084... -3.05%
Hull... 13... 143841... 151843... -5.27%
Widnes... 13... 73258... 78191... -6.31%
Warrington... 13... 128313... 138232... -7.18%
Catalans... 13... 99670... 108719... -8.32%
Bradford... 13... 86487... 111320... -22.31%
London... 13... 16828... 28775... -41.52%
Wakefield... 13... 56559... 103635... -45.42%
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Subtotal... 182... 1475780... 1557659... -5.26%
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Moonie/Tragic... 7... 64552... 62042... +4.04%
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TOTAL... 189... 1540332... 1619701... -4.90%
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Current Average Attendances V Same Fixtures Last Year
Club... SL:2014... (SL:2013)
Leeds... 15068... (15197)
Wigan... 14102... (14545)
St Helens... 12051... (11345)
Hull... 11065... (11680)
Warrington... 9870... (10633)
Hull KR... 7848... (7495)
Catalans... 7667... (8363)
Castleford... 7068... (6306)
Bradford... 6653... (8563)
Huddersfield... 6335... (6368)
Widnes... 5635... (6015)
Salford... 4515... (3125)
Wakefield... 4351... (7972)
London... 1294... (2213)

Average... 8109... (8559)

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SL Rounds 1 to 27 total attendances comparison (2009 to 2014)
SL 2014 - 1,540,332 from 182 fixtures + 7 Tragic fixtures
SL 2013 - 1,619,701 from same 182 fixtures + 7 Tragic fixtures
SL 2012 - 1,807,643 from same 182 fixtures + 7 Tragic fixtures
SL 2011 - 1,689,984 from same 182 fixtures + 7 Tragic fixtures**
SL 2010 - 1,644,641 from same 182 fixtures + 7 Tragic fixtures**
SL 2009 - 1,670,308 from same 182 fixtures + 7 Tragic fixtures**

SL 2014 % decrease in attendances (V corresponding 182 fixtures + 7 Tragic fixtures)
V SL 2013 = -4.90%
V SL 2012 = -14.79%
V SL 2011 = -8.86% **
V SL 2010 = -6.34% **
V SL 2009 = -7.78% **

SL 2014 attendance losses (V corresponding 182 fixtures + 7 Tragic fixtures)
V SL 2013 = -79,369
V SL 2012 = -267,311
V SL 2011 = -149,652 **
V SL 2010 = -104,309 **
V SL 2009 = -129,976 **

SL regular season average attendances (V corresponding 182 fixtures + 7 Tragic fixtures)
SL 2014 = 8,150
SL 2013 = 8,570
SL 2012 = 9,564
SL 2011 = 8,942 **
SL 2010 = 8,702 **
SL 2009 = 8,838 **

NOTE...** except replace Widnes with Crusaders

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AVERAGE SL ATTENDANCES PER CLUB (2009-2014)
Club.......... 2014... 2013... 2012... 2011... 2010... 2009
Bradford...... 6653... 8563... 11761... 13967... 8363... 9677
Castleford.... 7068... 6306.... 6633... 7156.... 6616.... 7489
Catalans...... 7667... 8363.... 9385... 8400.... 6806.... 9159
Crusaders.... 0000.... 0000.... 0000... 3377.... 4616.... 3668
Huddersfield. 6335... 6368.... 7709... 7091.... 7386.... 7908
Hull FC....... 11065.. 11680.. 11885.. 12427.. 13731.. 13244
Hull KR........ 7848... 7495.... 7786... 8321.... 8234.... 8527
Leeds......... 15068.. 15197.. 14948.. 15092.. 15355.. 15774
London........ 1294... 2213.... 2808... 3131.... 3379.... 3436
Salford........ 4515... 3125.... 5503... 4754.... 4166.... 4467
St Helens..... 12051.. 11345.. 14087.. 7867... 11191.. 11195
Wakefield..... 4351... 7972.... 8172... 6551.... 5983.... 6037
Warrington.... 9870.. 10633.. 11452.. 11108.. 10957... 9221
Widnes......... 5635... 6015.... 5977... 0000.... 0000... 0000
Wigan......... 14102.. 14545.. 16043.. 16125.. 15723.. 14088
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AVERAGE..... 8109... 8559... 9582... 8955... 8751... 8849
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AVERAGE SL ATTENDANCES PER CLUB (2009-2014)
Club.......... 2014... 2013... 2012... 2011... 2010... 2009
Bradford...... 6653... 8563... 11761... 13967... 8363... 9677
Castleford.... 7068... 6306.... 6633... 7156.... 6616.... 7489
Catalans...... 7667... 8363.... 9385... 8400.... 6806.... 9159
Crusaders.... 0000.... 0000.... 0000... 3377.... 4616.... 3668
Huddersfield. 6335... 6368.... 7709... 7091.... 7386.... 7908
Hull FC....... 11065.. 11680.. 11885.. 12427.. 13731.. 13244
Hull KR........ 7848... 7495.... 7786... 8321.... 8234.... 8527
Leeds......... 15068.. 15197.. 14948.. 15092.. 15355.. 15774
London........ 1294... 2213.... 2808... 3131.... 3379.... 3436
Salford........ 4515... 3125.... 5503... 4754.... 4166.... 4467
St Helens..... 12051.. 11345.. 14087.. 7867... 11191.. 11195
Wakefield..... 4351... 7972.... 8172... 6551.... 5983.... 6037
Warrington.... 9870.. 10633.. 11452.. 11108.. 10957... 9221
Widnes......... 5635... 6015.... 5977... 0000.... 0000... 0000
Wigan......... 14102.. 14545.. 16043.. 16125.. 15723.. 14088
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AVERAGE..... 8109... 8559... 9582... 8955... 8751... 8849
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Get on the blower with magic Super beetle, he'll show you how to do a table.

:lol:

Funny that the overall upward trend peaked in 2012
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The end of cheap tickets in Bradford and Wakefield no doubt probably contributed to that fall after 2012. Bradford's drop contributed on average 246 week on week. I suspect you'd see a more stagnant set of figures if those inflated figures were dropped down to a more natural level of say 8.5k.

Worry is that some big clubs seem to be in a downhill trend.

Hull 13,000 to 11,000 over past 5 years
Wigan 15k to 14k
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I'm disappointed that William has not spotted the amazing coincidence that seems to have occurred regarding the attendances for Salford's last two home games.
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: Sun Sep 14, 2014 6:22 pm  
The difference between the crowd for the wigan/warrington game this year and last year says it all about Thursday nights. Rightly or wrongly people are staying away, good for sky not so for us. Would of been good for the RFL to try and take a stand on this when negotiating the last tv deal.
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I'm disappointed that William has not spotted the amazing coincidence that seems to have occurred regarding the attendances for Salford's last two home games.

I did spot the amazing coincidence but I'm tired of making reference to the bullshit attendance figures of clubs like Salford and Catalan.

Salford's home attendance figures (announced officially or otherwise) are not to be trusted and neither are Catalans home attendances. They are often accompanied by the smell of bullshit.
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I'm disappointed that William has not spotted the amazing coincidence that seems to have occurred regarding the attendances for Salford's last two home games.

I did spot the amazing coincidence but I'm tired of making reference to the bullshit attendance figures of clubs like Salford and Catalan.

Salford's home attendance figures (announced officially or otherwise) are not to be trusted and neither are Catalans home attendances. They are often accompanied by the smell of bullshit.
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bewareshadows wrote:
Get on the blower with magic Super beetle, he'll show you how to do a table.

:lol:

Funny that the overall upward trend peaked in 2012


:WHISTLE: it's a lot of effort for this many columns ...

Club           2014    2013    2012    2011   2010    2009
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Bradford       6653    8563   11761   13967   8363    9677
Castleford     7068    6306    6633    7156   6616    7489
Catalans       7667    8363    9385    8400   6806    9159
Crusaders      0000    0000    0000    3377   4616    3668
Huddersfield   6335    6368    7709    7091   7386    7908
Hull FC       11065   11680   11885   12427  13731   13244
Hull KR        7848    7495    7786    8321   8234    8527
Leeds         15068   15197   14948   15092  15355   15774
London         1294    2213    2808    3131   3379    3436
Salford        4515    3125    5503    4754   4166    4467
St Helens     12051   11345   14087    7867  11191   11195
Wakefield      4351    7972    8172    6551   5983    6037
Warrington     9870   10633   11452   11108  10957    9221
Widnes         5635    6015    5977    0000   0000    0000
Wigan         14102   14545   16043   16125  15723   14088

AVERAGE        8109    8559    9582    8955   8751    8849


Happy with saints attendance breaking through the last season of KR
bewareshadows wrote:
Get on the blower with magic Super beetle, he'll show you how to do a table.

:lol:

Funny that the overall upward trend peaked in 2012


:WHISTLE: it's a lot of effort for this many columns ...

Club           2014    2013    2012    2011   2010    2009
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Bradford       6653    8563   11761   13967   8363    9677
Castleford     7068    6306    6633    7156   6616    7489
Catalans       7667    8363    9385    8400   6806    9159
Crusaders      0000    0000    0000    3377   4616    3668
Huddersfield   6335    6368    7709    7091   7386    7908
Hull FC       11065   11680   11885   12427  13731   13244
Hull KR        7848    7495    7786    8321   8234    8527
Leeds         15068   15197   14948   15092  15355   15774
London         1294    2213    2808    3131   3379    3436
Salford        4515    3125    5503    4754   4166    4467
St Helens     12051   11345   14087    7867  11191   11195
Wakefield      4351    7972    8172    6551   5983    6037
Warrington     9870   10633   11452   11108  10957    9221
Widnes         5635    6015    5977    0000   0000    0000
Wigan         14102   14545   16043   16125  15723   14088

AVERAGE        8109    8559    9582    8955   8751    8849


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Melbourne-Penrith
Sat 12th Oct
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18:00
Hull KR-Wigan
Sun 27th Oct
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 2nd Nov
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England M-Samoa M
Sat 5th Oct
CH 29 York27-10Widnes
SL 29 Wigan38-0Leigh
Fri 4th Oct
SL 29 Hull KR10-8Warrington
Sun 29th Sep
L1 25 Rochdale26-46Hunslet
CH 28 Barrow24-26Widnes
CH 28 Bradford50-0Swinton
CH 28 Dewsbury28-8Sheffield
CH28 Wakefield72-6Doncaster
CH 28 Whitehaven23-20Halifax
CH 28 York16-6Featherstone
Sat 28th Sep
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SL 28 Warrington23-22St.Helens
NRL 30 Penrith26-6Cronulla
Fri 27th Sep
SL 28 Salford6-14Leigh
NRL 30 Melbourne48-18Sydney
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 28 759 336 423 46
Hull KR 28 729 335 394 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
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Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 26 1010 262 748 50
Toulouse 25 744 368 376 35
Bradford 26 678 387 291 34
York 28 682 479 203 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 26 622 500 122 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Swinton 27 474 670 -196 18
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
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