: Tue Dec 09, 2008 3:36 pm  

Wellsy13 wrote:

Can I ask what harm it does that Toulouse are in the Championship?

Then we can look at some people's agendas on here...

Increased travelling costs

Devaluing the French League from being a feeder league to Super League to being a feeder to the Championship

Mainly those two, but ultimately I just don't see the point, as it's not like they're too good for the French League. French sides in SL I can see the good, but not in the Championship

: Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:37 am  

Pepe wrote:

Toulouse will not bring in any more sponsorship money by their presence in the Championship; the introduction of TV games will have helped that far more, and even that is negligible.

As Toulouse cannot be relegated, it may have a detrimental effect on some clubs who may have survived in the Championship had Toulouse not been there.

TV money is linked to the clubs involved, TO in the Championship pushes for more TV money.

TO have not finished the Championship in the relegation zone, we'll bitch about that if/when it happens.

: Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:07 pm  

belgianxiii wrote:

TV money is linked to the clubs involved, TO in the Championship pushes for more TV money.

TO have not finished the Championship in the relegation zone, we'll bitch about that if/when it happens.

We dont get any TV money

: Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:25 am  

belgianxiii wrote:

TV money is linked to the clubs involved, TO in the Championship pushes for more TV money.

How does that work, when it would be a different TV station screening the games in France than it would the UK?

: Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:38 am  

SmokeyTA wrote:

Are you really trying to argue there is a meaningful difference between saying

NL1 and NL2 arent the same thing

and

NL1 and NL2 are different things

are you asking what the differences between NL1 and NL2 are? surely you already know that Starry, one is NL1 and one is NL2, one is the 2nd tier of RFL pyramid one is the 3rd, one is made up of generally bigger clubs than the other, one is a bigger competition than the other, one has better attendances than the other, one has a higher profile than the other, one is in general a bigger league than the other

He doesn't understand the difference, Just as he doesn't understand the difference between SL and NL1. Thats why he thinks Leigh are worthy of super league

: Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:51 am  

Willa wrote:

He doesn't understand the difference, Just as he doesn't understand the difference between SL and NL1. Thats why he thinks Leigh are worthy of super league

Who me

Not in the least

But while you are on why dont you pass on your wisdom and tell us how you think Toulouse will help the Championships

: Sat Dec 20, 2008 1:30 pm  

Leyther_Matt wrote:

How does that work, when it would be a different TV station screening the games in France than it would the UK?

Sponsors look to get publicity. If teams play in higher profile games - the sort that get pictures in newspapers, then sponsors are more likely to spend more money on it.

Starbug, where does the RFL get the money it subsidises the NLs with? Sky TV money.

: Sat Dec 20, 2008 1:52 pm  

belgianxiii wrote:

Sponsors look to get publicity. If teams play in higher profile games - the sort that get pictures in newspapers, then sponsors are more likely to spend more money on it.

Starbug, where does the RFL get the money it subsidises the NLs with? Sky TV money.

You seriously believe that Batley,Keighley and Blackpool will get more sponsorship because of this ?

NO it is ' central ' funding , nothing to do with TV

: Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:43 am  

Starbug wrote:

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Who me

Not in the least

But while you are on why dont you pass on your wisdom and tell us how you think Toulouse will help the Championships

I couldn't care less if toulouse helped NL1, neither can the RFL. It is the NL1 that is there to help toulouse develope into a SL club.

: Fri Dec 26, 2008 12:04 am  

belgianxiii wrote:

TV money is linked to the clubs involved, TO in the Championship pushes for more TV money.

TO have not finished the Championship in the relegation zone, we'll bitch about that if/when it happens.

No, Catalan in SL brings in more tv money, but NL coverage generates naff all tv money, in and of itself. Its only covered on Sky because they prevented other stations showing NL RL, even when they weren't showing any themselves. They were, in effect, given a 'show it or it'l go elsewhere' ultimatum. And their coverage has been good these past two seasons. But having a french team in the 2nd tier makes no odds to its televisual marketability.

What the other NL teams lose for TO's inclusion is: the gate revenue from the away support of a nearby club; the increasesd travel cost of one overnight away match 1000 miles away; and for some clubs, the chance to play at NL1 instead of NL2 level.

None of which, btw, is to say I'm against TO being in the competition. As it goes, I welcome their inclusion. France is heartland RL territory, and deserves support. A strong international French team would be great for European and World rugby league. Credible European club rugby would also be great (qv RU). For me, those considerations take priority. But any benefit to other NL1 clubs is very tangential.

Bienvenue et bon chance a mes amis treizistes en Tolouse... j'espere que je vais aller regarder votre equipe avec les legends de Leigh.. et pardonnez-moi si mon francais est un peut mauvais, je suis vielle maintenaint, et mes journees d'ecole sont tres loin d'ici.....