Re: widdop : Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:26 pm  

saint billy wrote:

Westwood wasn't our best player, James Graham was, although he had a decent game.

Tomkins
Goulding
Atkins
Shenton
Goulding
Brown
Robinson
Graham
Roby
Fielden
Westwood
Ellis
O'Loughlin

Burgess
Crabtree
Griffin
Harrison.

Thats what i'd go for. A massive bench, with Burgess and Harrison able to cover anywhere in the pack except hooker, with Crabtree and Griffin rotating at prop. Also, if injuries occur to the backs, then the likes of Ellis or O'Loughlin can slot in if needs be. Joel Tomkins was rubbish when he come on, IMO, and doesn't deserve to be picked on the bench.

I'd pick the same as you mate, but Lunt on the bench instead of Griffin.

Re: widdop : Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:55 pm  

jonny the leyther wrote:

I'd pick the same as you mate, but Lunt on the bench instead of Griffin.

Shenton has been injured since that post Jonny. So that would need some adjusting.

Re: widdop : Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:26 pm  

Nozzy wrote:

Shenton has been injured since that post Jonny. So that would need some adjusting.

Not to mention Goulding playing on both wings.

Re: widdop : Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:34 pm  

id personally play widdop stand off as thats apparantly where he is going to be playing next year for melbourne. Kev brown is awful and no where near good enough for this level. if doing drop offs everytime you touched it worked then he would be a world beater! Start luke robinson at scrum half and have tomkins at full back. If we really need to change any of the half backs during the game then oloughlin could fill in there and he will do a better job than brown. carvell in for griffin who should be no where near this squad. tomkins to centre and then bring harrison onto the bench. so my full team would be.....

1.tomkins
2.goulding
3.tomkins
4.o'loughlin
5.briscoe
6.widdop
7.robinson
8.fielden
9.roby
10.graham
11.ellis
12.westwood
13.burgees

14.carvell
15.harrison
16.crabtree
17.lunt

Re: widdop : Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:19 pm  

Thats not far from the team i chose

DP_wwrlfc wrote:

S.Tomkins
Briscoe
Ellis
J.Tomkins
Goulding
Widdop
Robinson
Graham
Lunt
Fielden
Westwood
Burgess
O'loughlin

Roby, Crabtree, Griffin, Harrison

I think O'loughlin would be wasted big time in the centres, we wouldnt get the best of his passing game be it short or long. Despite being a forward he has the best passing range of anyone in the squad imo at Wigan hes used really well as a first or second reciever at times and creating space for Sam out at 3rd man . Whereas if Ellis is playing centre you could quite easily utilize his best attributes, get him to come inside and make the hard yards that he does early in the sets but then later keep him outwide running the great lines he does on the outside of S.Tomkins chiming into the line from fullback. At the other side he'd have his older brother outside of him and at times Westwood and Burgess.

Plus dont forget O'loughlin was the top tackler last week with 40 whilst playing at loose forward.

Re: widdop : Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:25 pm  

I can’t believe how many people are suggesting we play back rowers in the centres – Ellis, O’loughlin and Tomkins have all been muted. They may all be pretty mobile for back rowers but they haven’t got the pace to play in the backline in an international test. We may not blessed with the best backs in world rugby (and injuries has exposed this further) but the best chance we have on Saturday is to select forwards in the forwards and backs in the backs. I hope McNamara sees this

Re: widdop : Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:30 pm  

Joel Tomkins at centre?

Tomkins
Hall
Widdop
Atkins
Briscoe
Brown
Robinson
Graham
Roby
Fielden
Burgess
Ellis
O'Loughlin

Westwood
Crabtree
Griffin
Harrison

Re: widdop : Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:32 pm  

Toulouse for super L wrote:

:shock: Joel Tomkins at centre?

Hes played there quite a few times for Wigan when needed and done well. Joel is a very versatile player he played quite a few games at stand off at reserve team level. I think Joel is quicker than widdop myself from what ive seen of Widdop recently.

Re: widdop : Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:33 pm  

Toulouse for super L wrote:

:shock: Joel Tomkins at centre?

Tomkins
Hall
Widdop
Atkins
Briscoe
Brown
Robinson
Graham
Roby
Fielden
Burgess
Ellis
O'Loughlin

Westwood
Crabtree
Griffin
Harrison

May i also ask why you would drop Goulding after he outperformed Briscoe last week ?

Re: widdop : Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:02 pm  

How about this team:

1. S Tomkins
2. Hall
3. Widdop
4. Goulding
5. Briscoe
6. Brown
7. Robinson
8. Graham
9. Roby
10. Burgess
11. Ellis
12. Westwood
13. O Loughlin

14. Fielden
15. J Tomkins
16. Crabtree
17. Carvell