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Re: Lance Hohaia retires : Fri May 01, 2015 11:13 am  
If you want to play that game....... if the one being elbowed pulls a knife out and stabs the 'elbower' he goes to prison. Where does it ever stop?

Do you agree that what Flower did was wrong!
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Re: Lance Hohaia retires : Fri May 01, 2015 11:29 am  
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If you want to play that game....... if the one being elbowed pulls a knife out and stabs the 'elbower' he goes to prison. Where does it ever stop?

Do you agree that what Flower did was wrong!


Of course it was wrong! absolutely.
If this happened on the street Im not sure he would go to prison, plenty don't.
But if you did what lance did on the street you would also be arrested.
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Re: Lance Hohaia retires : Fri May 01, 2015 2:12 pm  
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Of course it was wrong! absolutely.
If this happened on the street Im not sure he would go to prison, plenty don't.
But if you did what lance did on the street you would also be arrested.

No, because an airy fairy shove with the forearm in the situation of retaliation for being pushed over previously (one individual low level shove from each) would get both of them a serious dressing down but not arrest.

The violent punch/es that followed would be ABH (possibly considered GBH in so far as the law states) and due to the second punch on an unconscious person unable to defend themselves could see a custodial sentence though first time offenders often see a fine.
Even taking into account it's a physical contact sport and fights happen regularly, the second punch though not the most damaging is the bit that would have re-inforced the ABH at the very least and might have pursauded a judge to make an example with a custodial sentence due to the extreme nature.
IF the police/CPS had got involved (they're pretty fecking useless in any case) it would be unlikely they'd go for the GBH charge because of them less likely to get a conviction.
All supposition because nothing was done, that said IF the police had decided to take matters further do you think RL players would be less likely to start throwing haymakers or not?
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Re: Lance Hohaia retires : Fri May 01, 2015 3:41 pm  
What he did was shocking, and probably one of the worst things I've seen on a rugby field.
What I'm getting at is this clamour of people claiming if he did that on the street he'd be arrested etc etc. as if behaviour on the rugby field wouldn't normally see people arrested if they did it on the street.
If someone elbowed me in the face - Id be pretty annoyed if the person I involved didn't get arrested. If I was rugby tackled Id hope they got arrested!
I'm not surprised the police stayed away from this one- it's difficult.
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Re: Lance Hohaia retires : Fri May 01, 2015 5:54 pm  
what Hohaia did is a common reaction on a rugby field when you have just been shoved over trying to defend a kick in a Grand Final. Nothing in it at all.(oh and elbow in the face, my a***) Flower's response was not a common occurrence, it was the most thuggish thing I have seen on a rugby field.
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Re: Lance Hohaia retires : Fri May 01, 2015 6:03 pm  
jools wrote:
Of course it was wrong! absolutely.
If this happened on the street Im not sure he would go to prison, plenty don't.
But if you did what lance did on the street you would also be arrested.



I'm sure a good brief would get him off with an instinctive reaction to the initial off the ball shot from flower that sparked the whole sorry episode.
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Re: Lance Hohaia retires : Fri May 01, 2015 11:45 pm  
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Insular AND insane :lol:
Aside from your obvious inability to post something intelligent I'll give you a second bite at trying to explain your viewpoint and why you disagree...away you go sonny 8)

Sonny :lol:
my mother had more self respect buddy......
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Re: Lance Hohaia retires : Sat May 02, 2015 1:20 am  
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Sonny :lol:
my mother had more self respect buddy......

Hahaha, so first you went down the 'I haven't got a loving clue what's being said and it scares me becoz I don't understand so I'll just post something inflammatory' track.
Now after I offered you a chance to explain why you disagreed, to regain a modicum of self respect back you post more drivel.

I see, so now you've made a right c0ck of yourself and shown to be a know nowt, what's next?
At least do the honourable thing and stop posting/continuing to make yourself look like an imbecile...sonny
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Re: Lance Hohaia retires : Sat May 02, 2015 1:59 am  
Squeaky bum time for Saints, letting a player with concussion like symptoms play 8 games this season.
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Re: Lance Hohaia retires : Sat May 02, 2015 7:10 am  
JonB95 wrote:
what Hohaia did is a common reaction on a rugby field when you have just been shoved over trying to defend a kick in a Grand Final. Nothing in it at all.(oh and elbow in the face, my a***) Flower's response was not a common occurrence, it was the most thuggish thing I have seen on a rugby field.


I take it you haven't watched much rugby? I have seen far worse.
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