: Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:50 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

the Mick Vella who was found guilty of using the forearm in the tackle? he is no angel on the pitch

you only 'like' Mick Vella because of his story, im not doing him down here because i have never met him, but he may be a complete tool, werent there rumours about him getting smacked for being behaving like an idiot a few months back? or he maybe the nicest guy ever, i simply dont know

a bit like you with bailey really, so you are making your judgement on what you see on the field, where his job is to rile and to niggle and to annoy, they fact you hate him proves how good a job he is doing

So it's also his job to make no metres in attack and constantly be thr 3rd man into tackles? Hmmm.....

: Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:00 pm  

A unknown superstar wrote:

So it's also his job to make no metres in attack and constantly be thr 3rd man into tackles? Hmmm.....

whats wrong with being third man in? third man often changes a tackle to a dominant one

it takes much more time and effort to get a ptb with three men in the tackle, than with two plus they can be puched back and turned on their back, third man in makes a very important contribution,

its strange how people see bailey, last year he made more tackles, more marker tackles, missed fewer tackles, and bust more tackles than Kylie Lueluai as well as making half as many errors,

yet lueluai had a storming season and bailey is a nothing player, its wierd

almost as wierd as the fact Bailey and Senior play down the same side, apparently according to some fans Bailey and Senior, despite their impressive defensive statistics only make tackles as third man in, so i wonder who was making those tackles last year, Rob Burrow? Scott Donald? those defensive dynamos? Gareth Ellis who probably had his worst year in a leeds shirt last year and missed 46 tackles?

: Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:06 pm  

A unknown superstar wrote:

So it's also his job to make no metres in attack and constantly be thr 3rd man into tackles? Hmmm.....

He's got more GF winners rings than any Hull forward so he must do something right.

: Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:06 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

the Mick Vella who was found guilty of using the forearm in the tackle? he is no angel on the pitch

you only 'like' Mick Vella because of his story, im not doing him down here because i have never met him, but he may be a complete tool, werent there rumours about him getting smacked for being behaving like an idiot a few months back? or he maybe the nicest guy ever, i simply dont know

a bit like you with bailey really, so you are making your judgement on what you see on the field, where his job is to rile and to niggle and to annoy, they fact you hate him proves how good a job he is doing

Im making the call on numerous things:

1. Last night showed what he was all about, storming out the line to pressure the kicker, elbowed perry in the face and when perry went for him he ran away. The "hard" props dont do such petty acts of violence, they do it by being hard but fair - steve price, asotasi, civonaceiva etc

2. 3rd man in to tackles, unless its smaller players. Again compounding every fans opinion of him. I dont oftern see him live, but last night was a great example of it.

3. I played against him years ago, was all mouth, all talk, all ego and ended up getting sat on his a55, he hasnt changed and would be a nothing prop oif he wasnt at Leeds.

: Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:07 pm  

Irregs #16 wrote:

3. I played against him years ago, was all mouth, all talk, all ego and ended up getting sat on his a55, he hasnt changed and would be a nothing prop oif he wasnt at Leeds.

Of course you did chuck...

: Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:07 pm  

Glenn Morangie wrote:

He's got more GF winners rings than any Hull forward so he must do something right.

Ricky Bibey has more CC medals than most Hull players but he is 5hit too!

Another example is Danny Ward, winners medals/rings, GB caps, now at London and nobody mentions him - apart from me just now

: Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:08 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

whats wrong with being third man in? third man often changes a tackle to a dominant one

it takes much more time and effort to get a ptb with three men in the tackle, than with two plus they can be puched back and turned on their back, third man in makes a very important contribution,

its strange how people see bailey, last year he made more tackles, more marker tackles, missed fewer tackles, and bust more tackles than Kylie Lueluai as well as making half as many errors,

yet lueluai had a storming season and bailey is a nothing player, its wierd

Yet out of your main five props last season he made the least amount of metres, and even made more carries than Scruton and Burgess but still didn't make as many metres.

: Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:09 pm  

Irregs #16 wrote:

Ricky Bibey has more CC medals than most Hull players but he is 5hit too!

You saying Hull are sh*t? At least that's progress we'll make you a fan of a decent team yet.

: Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:09 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

the Mick Vella who was found guilty of using the forearm in the tackle? he is no angel on the pitch

you only 'like' Mick Vella because of his story, im not doing him down here because i have never met him, but he may be a complete tool, werent there rumours about him getting smacked for being behaving like an idiot a few months back? or he maybe the nicest guy ever, i simply dont know

a bit like you with bailey really, so you are making your judgement on what you see on the field, where his job is to rile and to niggle and to annoy, they fact you hate him proves how good a job he is doing

I like Mick Vella because he is 100% - and although he does play for Rovers he is a player I would love at Hull. I dont think Rugby League gets the praise it deserves and people like Bailey do nothing to attract outsiders to the game, Vella is a role model for kids to get into Rugby and to make this game grow

: Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:09 pm  

Glenn Morangie wrote:

Of course you did chuck...

Whats to say he hasn't? Do you know the poster personally to know that he hasn't?