Re: Your England team on current form : Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:21 pm  

I can't believe some people in this thread are not selecting Reed! He has been in great form at the start of the NRL season and was one of Englands best performers in the four nations.

Re: Your England team on current form : Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:41 pm  

Wellsy13 wrote:

After watching Lynch at his first few games at Hull, I have no idea how this guy hasn't had an England call up before.

Many Bradford fans would agree with you. He's consistently been one of the best props in SL even playing in a poor Bulls side.

Re: Your England team on current form : Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:03 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

I disagree about Brough.
He is one of the few halfbacks who can and will defend and he has a world class kicking game and an excellent rugby brain.
The one think that he's never had until recently, is the chance to play behind a quality pack.
IMO the reason that he never played top level international RL is because he spent so much of his career at unfashionable clubs ie Wakefield and Cas.
He may well have missed his chance, being 29, but the guy is a quality half back and much better than some of Englands recent choices.

Brough looks good against poor teams and poor against good teams, but excuses are made when he looks poor against good teams, as you have just done, by blaming the pack. Brough will look good for the first 15 rounds or so, where the team he is playing for picks up a few wins against those above them who underperform, and they comfortably beat the teams below them. But he will fall away as the season progresses and the intensity rises.

Re: Your England team on current form : Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:23 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

Brough looks good against poor teams and poor against good teams, but excuses are made when he looks poor against good teams, as you have just done, by blaming the pack. Brough will look good for the first 15 rounds or so, where the team he is playing for picks up a few wins against those above them who underperform, and they comfortably beat the teams below them. But he will fall away as the season progresses and the intensity rises.

So you think he's having a poor season ?
The point I was making is that he's starting to pull the strings at Hudds and both he is playing well and Hudds as a team look better when he is in the team.
We may never know as he is running out of time to have a chance at the highest level (mainly because he decided he was Scottish a few years back)

Re: Your England team on current form : Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:37 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

So you think he's having a poor season ?
The point I was making is that he's starting to pull the strings at Hudds and both he is playing well and Hudds as a team look better when he is in the team.
We may never know as he is running out of time to have a chance at the highest level (mainly because he decided he was Scottish a few years back)

No, i dont think he is having a poor season, i think he will have a poor end to the season when the games get bigger and the opposition better. I think this because it is what he has done for his entire career. Brough looks decent at the moment, and did last season, before he and Hudds fell away without so much as a whimper.

Re: Your England team on current form : Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:45 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

No, i dont think he is having a poor season, i think he will have a poor end to the season when the games get bigger and the opposition better. I think this because it is what he has done for his entire career. Brough looks decent at the moment, and did last season, before he and Hudds fell away without so much as a whimper.

Only time will tell (and if he actually gets a chance)
They have already played 3 teams out of the "Big 4" and won two of those, so he's doing ok, but equally, ant half back can only perform behind a strong pack.
Rangi Chase is a prime example at club level, no doubt he has some craft and excellent ball skills, but Cas wont win jus because he's in the team.
Equally, Warrington dont win just because they have Briers, again there is no doubt that he is a quality player.

Re: Your England team on current form : Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:16 pm  

Smokey TA has decided he doesnt like Brough an no amount of actual evidence will prove otherwise, clearly he forgets Brought serious injury last season meant he missed the Exiles game and struggled to get his form back

Currently he is the best scrum half in the country, and has matured into that beyond all recognition from his former self at other clubs

Re: Your England team on current form : Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:04 pm  

Code13 wrote:

Smokey TA has decided he doesnt like Brough an no amount of actual evidence will prove otherwise, clearly he forgets Brought serious injury last season meant he missed the Exiles game and struggled to get his form back

Currently he is the best scrum half in the country, and has matured into that beyond all recognition from his former self at other clubs

What evidence?, lets look at the clubs he's played for throughout his career.. York, Wakefield, Hull, Castleford and now Huddersfield.
Yep, it's conclusive, he's the player all the top clubs want. I don't believe he's any different now to before he joined Huddersfield.

Re: Your England team on current form : Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:41 pm  

1. Tomkins

2. Charnley
3. Watkins
4. Reed/Atkins
5. Hall

6. Widdop
7. Brough

8. Graham
9. Roby
10. Burgess
11. Westwood
12. Ellis
13. O'Loughin

14. Hock
15. Morley
16. Robinson
17. Mossop

Thats a pretty strong team.

Re: Your England team on current form : Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:45 pm  

Infact Id have Henderson as the interchange hooker.