Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Sat Feb 22, 2014 8:00 am  

loiner81 wrote:

So we've gone from comparing previous season's attendances to now comparing 6 years' worth.

Talk about constantly moving goal posts to suit agendas. You couldn't make this crap up

Not that anyone did that last year of course...

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:09 am  

JB Down Under wrote:

Where's the full listing so far? Come on William lift your game or are the attendances not depressing enough for you?

Not my attendance thread.

Original attendance thread was locked as a consequence of a resident Moonie overreaction to the Wigan/Hudds opener being over 17% down on the attendance last season.

I'm sure JonB95 will do an excellent job in taking over this season.

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:14 am  

RLBandit wrote:

Not that anyone did that last year of course...

Indeed.

For every SL round, I compared last season's SL attendances with every other season during the franchised 14 team, top 8 play-off era. How else would we all know that 2013 SL attendances were the lowest during that entire era?

Poor old Smokey's embarrassing claim that 2013 SL attendances would be the 2nd highest ever throughout RL history turned out to be comically misplaced, hence why he has allegedly blocked me (added me to his foe list) ever since.

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Sat Feb 22, 2014 1:47 pm  

William Eve wrote:

The 16,164 attendance for the Leeds V Warrington fixture was 4th highest out of 6 meetings during the franchised 14 team, top 8 play-off era.

Leeds V Warrington in 2014: 16,164
Leeds V Warrington in 2013: 15,059
Leeds V Warrington in 2012: 17,120
Leeds V Warrington in 2011: 17,276
Leeds V Warrington in 2010: 16,733
Leeds V Warrington in 2009: 13,386

The 13,448 attendance for the St Helens V Hull fixture was 3rd highest out of 6 meetings during the franchised 14 team, top 8 play-off era.

St Helens V Hull in 2014: 13,448 (Langtree Pk)
St Helens V Hull in 2013: 11,257 (Langtree Pk)
St Helens V Hull in 2012: 14,875 (Langtree Pk)
St Helens V Hull in 2011: 7,053 (Widnes)
St Helens V Hull in 2010: 12,142 (Knowsley Rd)
St Helens V Hull in 2009: 13,684 (Knowsley Rd)

I note that you were happy to avoid historical context last year whilst crowds were down, but now you are suddenly far more interested in it since they are rising again.

I will be comparing to last year and last year alone. So far this weekend, 2 of 3 Super League crowds have shown an increase on the same fixture from last season, whilst the World Club Challenge crowd was the largest since the 2009 edition.

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Sat Feb 22, 2014 2:05 pm  

JonB95 wrote:

I note that you were happy to avoid historical context last year whilst crowds were down, but now you are suddenly far more interested in it since they are rising again.

How did I avoid the historical context last year when I included the cumulative attendance totals at the end of each round for every SL season from 2009 onwards?

JonB95 wrote:

I will be comparing to last year and last year alone.

That's entirely up to you. If anyone would like further historical context applied to your more limited figures on any particular occasion, they may request them from me.

JonB95 wrote:

So far this weekend, 2 of 3 Super League crowds have shown an increase on the same fixture from last season

Which is usually the case in the early rounds as opening fixtures of the season are among the best attended.

JonB95 wrote:

whilst the World Club Challenge crowd was the largest since the 2009 edition.

Not sure what relevance an Australian attendance has to Super League attendances but a more like-for-like comparison between WCC attendances in Australia would note that today's attendance of 31,515 was 41.88% lower than the attendance for the Brisbane V Wigan WCC game in 1994 during the pre-SL era.

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:47 pm  

JonB95 wrote:

I note that you were happy to avoid historical context last year whilst crowds were down, but now you are suddenly far more interested in it since they are rising again.

I will be comparing to last year and last year alone. So far this weekend, 2 of 3 Super League crowds have shown an increase on the same fixture from last season, whilst the World Club Challenge crowd was the largest since the 2009 edition.

Make that two out of four, London down by around forty percent, but on such low figures it won't have much affect overall.

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:51 pm  

The Devil's Advocate wrote:

Make that two out of four, London down by around forty percent, but on such low figures it won't have much affect overall.

not in numbers it won't, but in PERCENTAGES it will

London will concede more points this year than today's attendance.......it is a straight race for 13th between Wakey and Bradford!

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:35 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

not in numbers it won't, but in PERCENTAGES it will

London will concede more points this year than today's attendance.......it is a straight race for 13th between Wakey and Bradford!

Not in overall percentages. Only in percentages for the London team, but in combined attendances for the league it will have less of an impact.

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:06 am  

bewareshadows wrote:

Not in overall percentages. Only in percentages for the London team, but in combined attendances for the league it will have less of an impact.

As with all statistics, it depends who's doing the maths. Combine the crowds then work out the percentages = small effect. Work out the percentages then combine those = massive difference.

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:30 am  

andyh0064 wrote:

As with all statistics, it depends who's doing the maths. Combine the crowds then work out the percentages = small effect. Work out the percentages then combine those = massive difference.

Is their an exam at the end of the season?

London will average less than 2k this year.......there are some very strange posters on their forum at the moment trying to put a positive spin on that gate yesterday??????