Re: Stadium Developments : Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:39 am  

The old stadiums housed communities of people that generally came from within a very short range of the clubs with many many people who knew each other through work, or had seen each other in the street.
Hull and its fishing/dock workers & families, West Yorkshire/Lancashire et al with the mining/mill workers. This community 'spirit' amongst peoples doesn't exist as it once did, I'm not saying it has completely died out but the bonds amongst communities are fragmented, that is just how society is.
The older generation pass on & no matter how much/many of the next generation pass on the baton of following their team it doesn't/won't get the soul of what rugby league crowds once where. Not being able to vent your spleen in whatever way you see fit has also taken something from the grounds which are now far more sterile than days of yore.

Re: Stadium Developments : Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:48 am  

Have to admit going to Wigan's new ground stuck ou i n the middle of nowhere with little atmosphere inside was a boring experience compared to packing into Headingly or the old Boulevard. I guess times change and people would rather drive to a greenfields site, sit in a cramped seat, pay through the nose for poor quality food and drink a =nd accept being charged 25 quid for the pleasure of it. Good job the game on the field is great entertainment.

Re: Stadium Developments : Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:05 am  

knockersbumpMKII wrote:

The old stadiums housed communities of people that generally came from within a very short range of the clubs with many many people who knew each other through work, or had seen each other in the street.
Hull and its fishing/dock workers & families, West Yorkshire/Lancashire et al with the mining/mill workers. This community 'spirit' amongst peoples doesn't exist as it once did, I'm not saying it has completely died out but the bonds amongst communities are fragmented, that is just how society is.
The older generation pass on & no matter how much/many of the next generation pass on the baton of following their team it doesn't/won't get the soul of what rugby league crowds once where. Not being able to vent your spleen in whatever way you see fit has also taken something from the grounds which are now far more sterile than days of yore.

Absolutely agree, times change and its in the name of progress.
Yes, we do need safe environments to watch professional sport, but many of the new stadia have "lego" stands and do lack soul.
Of all the new grounds the KC in Hull, for me, is the best, many of the others are just places to go and lack any real atmosphere.
It doesn't help, when many of the new grounds are half full, or less. At least with old style terracing people could spread out and you weren't left with blocks of empty seats.

Re: Stadium Developments : Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:23 am  

If you was in the west stand car park looking at the west stand/new north this is your view.



Same view from the east stand side would be



Full ground layout is here

Re: Stadium Developments : Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:48 pm  

JB Down Under wrote:

Have to admit going to Wigan's new ground stuck ou i n the middle of nowhere with little atmosphere inside was a boring experience compared to packing into Headingly or the old Boulevard. I guess times change and people would rather drive to a greenfields site, sit in a cramped seat, pay through the nose for poor quality food and drink a =nd accept being charged 25 quid for the pleasure of it. Good job the game on the field is great entertainment.

The DW is closer to the centre of Wigan than Headingley is to the centre of Leeds, and tickets are cheaper.

I think that the all-seaters take away some of the atmosphere tough. People feel less inclined to sing and shout when sat down.

Re: Stadium Developments : Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:08 pm  

wigan_rlfc wrote:

The DW is closer to the centre of Wigan than Headingley is to the centre of Leeds, and tickets are cheaper.

I think that the all-seaters take away some of the atmosphere tough. People feel less inclined to sing and shout when sat down.

Not to mention the banter with your own fans and the opposition speckies.

Re: Stadium Developments : Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:18 pm  

Easty wrote:

If you was in the west stand car park looking at the west stand/new north this is your view.



Same view from the east stand side would be



Full ground layout is here

Sure it will be a vast improvement but looks a bit like an airport terminal to me - it's a bit odd looking.

Re: Stadium Developments : Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:26 pm  

wigan_rlfc wrote:

The DW is closer to the centre of Wigan than Headingley is to the centre of Leeds, and tickets are cheaper.

Leeds is a city with suburbs, of which Headingley is one. Leeds RLFC are also notionally the north Leeds Rugby League club rather than the pan-Leeds RL club so the comparison is difficult.

An analysis of the degree to which south Leeds RL fans have been surrendered by Hunslet to football or have transferred their allegiencies through the generations to Leeds is something I would very much like to see.

Re: Stadium Developments : Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:58 pm  

MjM wrote:

Leeds is a city with suburbs, of which Headingley is one. Leeds RLFC are also notionally the north Leeds Rugby League club rather than the pan-Leeds RL club so the comparison is difficult.

An analysis of the degree to which south Leeds RL fans have been surrendered by Hunslet to football or have transferred their allegiencies through the generations to Leeds is something I would very much like to see.

Bl00dy hell you'd have to go back t' war years and before you could say Hunslet had a fair slice of the 'pan' Leeds fan base not mention Bramleys vast hordes of lost fans

Re: Stadium Developments : Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:49 pm  

vastman wrote:

Sure it will be a vast improvement but looks a bit like an airport terminal to me - it's a bit odd looking.

Most of what you see there is the view from the North West corner. which will connect the hospitality section of the new stand to the old west stand.