Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Sun Feb 23, 2014 9:26 am  

William Eve wrote:

How did I avoid the historical context last year when I included the cumulative attendance totals at the end of each round for every SL season from 2009 onwards?

That's entirely up to you. If anyone would like further historical context applied to your more limited figures on any particular occasion, they may request them from me.

Which is usually the case in the early rounds as opening fixtures of the season are among the best attended.

Not sure what relevance an Australian attendance has to Super League attendances but a more like-for-like comparison between WCC attendances in Australia would note that today's attendance of 31,515 was 41.88% lower than the attendance for the Brisbane V Wigan WCC game in 1994 during the pre-SL era.

I am referring to the fact that you never gave the previous 5 years' attendances last season, but now you suddenly are in a desperate attempt to prove that this years crowds are not as good as they seem.

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Sun Feb 23, 2014 11:32 am  

JonB95 wrote:

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I will be comparing to last year and last year alone. So far this weekend, 2 of 3 Super League crowds have shown an increase on the same fixture from last season, whilst the World Club Challenge crowd was the largest since the 2009 edition.

Spot a problem with those two sentences?

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Sun Feb 23, 2014 1:49 pm  

The London v Salford crowd included around 400 Salford fans. If we'd have taken our usual 150 there then the crowd would have been sub-1000. Really sad to London in such a state at present.

Decent ground and set up for anyone heading down this year though.

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Sun Feb 23, 2014 2:07 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

there are some very strange posters on their forum at the moment trying to put a positive spin on that gate yesterday??????

Where?

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:37 pm  

SL Round 2 attendances - comparison to same fixtures last year


Wakefield V Bradford in 2014 = 4,049 *THURSDAY NIGHT GAME* + *REDUCED CAPACITY*
Wakefield V Bradford in 2013 = 8,084
% decrease = -49.91%

Leeds V Warrington in 2014 = 16,164
Leeds V Warrington in 2013 = 15,059
% increase = +7.34%

St Helens V Hull in 2014 = 13,448
St Helens V Hull in 2013 = 11,257
% increase = +19.46%

London V Salford in 2014 = 1,246 *LOWEST CROWD FOR THIS FIXTURE IN SL*
London V Salford in 2013 = 2,079
% decrease = -40.07%

Huddersfield V Hull KR in 2014 = 7,180
Huddersfield V Hull KR in 2013 = 5,641
% increase = +27.28%

Castleford V Catalans in 2014 = 5,104
Castleford V Catalans in 2013 = 5,205
% decrease = -1.94%


Total Attendance in SL Round 2 = 47,191 (Avg: 7,865)
Total Attendance same fixtures last year = 47,325 (Avg: 7,888)
% decrease = -0.28%

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3 out of 6 fixtures in Round 1 have shown an increase in attendance compared to the same SL fixtures last year.

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Championship Round 2 attendances - comparison to same fixtures last year


Barrow V Leigh in 2014 = 1,252
Barrow V Leigh in 2013 = 972
% increase = +28.81%

Batley V Workington in 2014 = 559
Batley V Workington in 2013 = 450
% increase = +24.22

Doncaster V Keighley in 2014 = 647
Doncaster V Keighley in 2013 = 686
% decrease = -5.69%

Featherstone V Halifax in 2014 = 2,583
Featherstone V Halifax in 2013 = 3,686
% decrease = -29.92%

Rochdale V Dewsbury in 2014 = 817
Rochdale V Dewsbury in 2013 = N/A

Swinton V Sheffield in 2014 = 548
Swinton V Sheffield in 2013 = 515
% increase = +6.41%


Total Attendance in Championship Round 2 (excluding Rochdale v Dewsbury) = 5,589 (Avg: 1,118)
Total Attendance same fixtures last year = 6,309 (Avg: 1,262)
% decrease = -11.41%

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3 out of 5 comparable fixtures in Round 2 have shown an increase in attendance compared to the same Championship fixtures last year.

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Total Attendance for comparable games in SL and Championship Round 2 = 52,790 (Avg: 4,798)
Total Attendance same fixtures last year = 53,634 (Avg: 4,876)
% decrease = -1.57%

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Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:44 pm  

SL Attendances

Round 1 - 10.38% increase
Round 2 - 0.28% decrease

Total
2014 - 120,157
2013 - 113,434
% increase = +5.93%

Championship Attendances

Round 1 - 39.67% increase
Round 2 - 11.41% decrease

Total
2014 - 13,564
2013 - 12,020
% increase = +12.85%

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:48 pm  

- Interesting to see Featherstone's marquee fixture scoring a crowd of (only) 2,583. I will assume this is the number of fans they will be expecting to draw if/when they make the Super League...

- London's crowd of a meagre 1,200 was (according to reports) supplemented by over 400 Salford fans. Quite a worry for the season ahead.

- It will be interesting to see whether or not Wakefield's crowds will pick up once the stadium returns to full capacity. Their first home game of the season saw an almost 50% (not 100% ) drop on the same fixture last year.

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:04 pm  

JonB95 wrote:

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- It will be interesting to see whether or not Wakefield's crowds will pick up once the stadium returns to full capacity. Their first home game of the season saw an almost 100% drop on the same fixture last year.

Are you sure the stats are being done right. If the crowd was 10,000 last year and this year it's 5,000, surely that's a 50% drop? A 100% drop would imply the crowd was zero in year 2.

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:10 pm  

JonB95 wrote:

- Interesting to see Featherstone's marquee fixture scoring a crowd of (only) 2,583. I will assume this is the number of fans they will be expecting to draw if/when they make the Super League...

- London's crowd of a meagre 1,200 was (according to reports) supplemented by over 400 Salford fans. Quite a worry for the season ahead.

- It will be interesting to see whether or not Wakefield's crowds will pick up once the stadium returns to full capacity. Their first home game of the season saw an almost 100% drop on the same fixture last year.

A drop of 100% would be zero. By my reckoning the drop was 49.9%.

Re: Opening weekend sees attendances soaring by 12.70% : Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:20 pm  

Wooden Stand wrote:

Are you sure the stats are being done right. If the crowd was 10,000 last year and this year it's 5,000, surely that's a 50% drop? A 100% drop would imply the crowd was zero in year 2.

Yep, and London's only a forty percent drop.

Good attendance at Huddersfield though, perhaps it's finally sunk in they've got a decent team.