Re: McNamara to go : Mon Nov 10, 2014 4:39 am  

Father Ted wrote:

McNamara's contract won't be renewed surely?
Any one of Wane, Powell or McDermott could do a far better job.
We have a young squad and improving we just need a coach who can take them that step further.
With McNamara out of the way there may be still time for Brough and certainly time for Atkins who will never be selected for England as long as he's the coach.

You seem to have forgotten the recently minted Englishman Anthony Smith.

Re: McNamara to go : Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:52 am  

Well I have never been a big fan of Macnamara, but apart from a couple of player choices, which people don't agree with, what has he done wrong. This is the most competitive we've been in a long, long time and we need to let him carry on with the good work that he's obviously done. As others have said, he didn't make wrong choices on the field or drop the ball so lets give him the credit that he's due.

Re: McNamara to go : Mon Nov 10, 2014 9:06 am  

McNamara would have coached us through the series unbeaten, save for Bernard Sutton. The performance against NZ was a well-coached one: patient, structured with a few worked moves that were successful.

Anyone suggesting Shaun Wane as the next boss can't have seen Warriors Down Under. Unless that was a spoof? "Anthony Minichiello. He's left-handed. Watch him carrying the ball in his left hand. SBW. He loses the ball in contact. Let's try and make him lose the ball in contact."

Re: McNamara to go : Mon Nov 10, 2014 11:31 am  

Kiwi Shane wrote:

Posts like this always make me laugh.

What do you expect??


NZ and Australia are on a different level to England.

We expect better trolling. Yours is on 8 year old level

Re: McNamara to go : Mon Nov 10, 2014 12:02 pm  

Hessle Roader wrote:

Well I have never been a big fan of Macnamara, but apart from a couple of player choices, which people don't agree with, what has he done wrong. This is the most competitive we've been in a long, long time and we need to let him carry on with the good work that he's obviously done. As others have said, he didn't make wrong choices on the field or drop the ball so lets give him the credit that he's due.

Agree, I haven't seen England play that competitive in ages, they just seem to lack that bit extra that would allow them to close out the game which is frustrating. I don't think we were ever beating Australia due to the ref gate scandal, but it seems we bottled it against NZ and bombed way too many chances.

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Re: McNamara to go : Mon Nov 10, 2014 12:18 pm  

We were a coat of paint away from beating NZ. That's not a lame duck NZ coached by Gary Kemble either.

Against Australia we were close than we've been in years.

The team is playing better rugby and is miles ahead of where we were back in 2008. The players play as a team and not a set of individuals as has been the case in the past. In this tournament we've played without our best hooker and back row and with two halfbacks who are fairly average.

I'd give McNamara the chance versus NZ in 2015. If we lose that series then maybe it's time for a change then.

Re: McNamara to go : Mon Nov 10, 2014 12:47 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

We were a coat of paint away from beating NZ. That's not a lame duck NZ coached by Gary Kemble either.

Against Australia we were close than we've been in years.

The team is playing better rugby and is miles ahead of where we were back in 2008. The players play as a team and not a set of individuals as has been the case in the past. In this tournament we've played without our best hooker and back row and with two halfbacks who are fairly average.

I'd give McNamara the chance versus NZ in 2015. If we lose that series then maybe it's time for a change then.

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Re: McNamara to go : Mon Nov 10, 2014 12:50 pm  

This is the best I've seen an England/GB team perform since I started watching RL 20 years ago, I'd stick with him. I certainly don't see the benefits of Wane (go out and knock them out), Powell (failure in the big games last year) or McDermott (very average in regular season games).

Re: McNamara to go : Mon Nov 10, 2014 12:54 pm  

I think it's time for Steve McNamara to be removed from his post. He as done a good job, but it's time for someone else to take England to the next level, which I am confident will happen with the correct coach in charge.

Re: McNamara to go : Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:27 pm  

I haven't read all the arguments there are too many for me to be bothered. But here's my opinion.

I think Nickykiss said england are like Wigan under Noble and I completely agree. I also have to say I wanted Noble to be given another year at Wigan as we kept getting so close. I was wrong, Lenagan was right to go and find a man who could take us the next step.
What people who are arguing Mcnamara should stay need to decide is do they think he is good enough to take us that extra step over the line?

I don't, I think he's done a good job turning our fortunes around and putting good things in place (as Nobby did at Wigan), but a new man is needed to give us whatever we're lacking.

I think Wane is the right man but understand why some don't think so. Put it this way Wane learnt from his mistakes, we lost 2 semi finals in 2012 and in 2013 won the double, because Wane adapted himself and the team.

I know Wigan won nothing this year but I think that's more to do with Ben Flower than Wane.