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BillyRhino wrote:
So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish>

IA mode off. :wink:

Re: Stadium Developments : Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:18 pm  
The major blocker to Wakefield's proposed new stadium has been gaining planning permission for the whole of the proposed Newmarket site, the outcome of which will of course be shortly know (latest 19th June). A outline funding package has been put together for the stadium and community sports complex, which includes funding from the developers of the site under a proposed section 106 agreement; Wakefield MDC in the form of asset loan land security funding not direct funding (value circa £2m) (BTW - the same level of security value has been made available to Cas when required); Wakefield College, who propose to move their sports, leisure & tourism students to the site; and finally other grant funding packages, such as Sports England, which is being lead by Sir Rodney Walker on behalf of the Community Trust that will run the stadium. Once planning is agreed this funding can be released and put in place over the next 6 months (or hopefully sooner), with the new stadium finished latest for start of 2015 season, but target now mid-way through 2014 season.

The major blocker to Castleford's move to Glasshoughton is not planning (which they have), but the funding package to build the new stadium. Castleford do have an asset in WR worth somewhere between £4m & £6m but then of course they also require additional funding to make up the build cost shortfall. This is were another developer comes in and has offered options to Cas to bridge the funding gap by way of planning gain for this and possibly adjoining/other sites close to WR. The option is conditional on securing end user clients for both this and now other sites, and gaining planning for these options. At which stage we understand Opus will release the sale value for WR (as they are buying it as part of the deal) and some top up funding to bridge that was originally envisaged to be the whole funding gap, but is understood to be falling short (although not prohibitively short) of the build value. It is unclear if that can be made up by borrowing £2m, as the Wakefield Community Trust plan to do, against the asset land given to both clubs by WMDC or still requires some more investment, which they might be able to come by once they have the bulk of the funding as they are close to a major leisure venue in Xscape/J32. The site also needs a new access road and it is unclear at the moment who is paying the circa £1m for that, but again that might be easier to find once they have the bulk of the funding sorted.
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Re: Stadium Developments : Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:35 pm  
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Basically, we have the funding but no planning permission (due on the 19th June) :PRAY:

Cas have planning permission but no funding due to issues around the sale of Wheldon Rd.

Hopefully both clubs can overcome the remaining hurdles and deliver 2 stadiums to the district.


Should have built a shared ground at Junction 31. So that it was close to the transport links of the motorway and train line with a mini station put in to also aid the workers on Europort.
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BillyRhino wrote:
So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish>

IA mode off. :wink:

Re: Stadium Developments : Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:44 pm  
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Should have built a shared ground at Junction 31. So that it was close to the transport links of the motorway and train line with a mini station put in to also aid the workers on Europort.


What a great idea... if it was not for around 15 million or so minor flaws!

Maybe if you win the Euro Millions tonight, you could solve Cas & Wakey's problems and still have plenty of cash to buy the Bulls! Result!
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Re: Stadium Developments : Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:28 pm  
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Should have built a shared ground at Junction 31. So that it was close to the transport links of the motorway and train line with a mini station put in to also aid the workers on Europort.


Cas are going to build ground at Junction 32. Which is close to the transport links of the motorway and there already is train line with a station which is about 3/5 minutes walk.
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Re: Stadium Developments : Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:32 pm  
No pics of workmen in high viz jackets for a while.
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BillyRhino wrote:
So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish>

IA mode off. :wink:

Re: Stadium Developments : Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:40 pm  
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Cas are going to build ground at Junction 32. Which is close to the transport links of the motorway and there already is train line with a station which is about 3/5 minutes walk.


I don't think he knows this or the fact the Newmarket site entrance is only 500 yards off Junction 30... granted, it doesn't have a train line or station like GH though! :wink:
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Re: Stadium Developments : Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:53 pm  
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The site also needs a new access road and it is unclear at the moment who is paying the circa £1m for that,


Waystone S106 agreement.

HTH :wink:
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Re: Stadium Developments : Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:24 pm  
What's all this about a new stadium - when did all this happen? :)
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Re: Stadium Developments : Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:59 am  
In these two new stadiums how much of the revenue they generate will the clubs see? Will the investors/council take all the income?
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Re: Stadium Developments : Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:17 am  
littlerich wrote:
In these two new stadiums how much of the revenue they generate will the clubs see? Will the investors/council take all the income?


Now now rich, you know questions like that arent allowed on here, its like the derision shown to HKR s development, when in fact, they are doing it the right way, developing income, not losing it, clubs need money, not shiny empty seats
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