Stuart Fielden : Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:46 pm  

Is this bloke winding down to retirement?

If what he's offered in the last couple of games is now his level then he should really think about knocking the game on the head.

The bloke is not within a million miles of being the player he was the year he left Bradford and to see a him getting dragged around like a rag doll is quite sad.

: Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:50 pm  

Didn't he start the wind down the day he signed for Wigan?

He's had about 3 games since where he's looked like a quality prop, let alone the most expensive one in the world.

: Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:56 pm  

How did he play for Wigan prior to the 2006 tri nations?

I often wonder just how much of an effect getting chinned by Mason had on him.

Fielden was as tough as teak, he ran hard and broke defences for fun and also would think nothing of getting involved in a bit of biff, but I think he's clearly lost his appetite for the game and he's just going through the motions until his Wigan contract is up.

: Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:58 pm  

-DAZ- wrote:

How did he play for Wigan prior to the 2006 tri nations?

I often wonder just how much of an effect getting chinned by Mason had on him.

Fielden was as tough as teak, he ran hard and broke defences for fun and also would think nothing of getting involved in a bit of biff, but I think he's clearly lost his appetite for the game and he's just going through the motions until his Wigan contract is up.

I can't recall Fielden ever getting involved in the biff, to be honest.

He was good at raising his fist in an oh so threatening manner, but can't recall him really mixing it with anyone.

The one time his bluff was called, he was put on his harris.

Mind you, surely copping a good shot on the chin shouldn't be enough to finish a career?

: Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:03 pm  

Ive just come on to comment on exactly the same thing

He doesnt look good enough to be in Super League.

: Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:03 pm  

Cragganmore Kid wrote:

I can't recall Fielden ever getting involved in the biff, to be honest.

He was good at raising his fist in an oh so threatening manner, but can't recall him really mixing it with anyone.

The one time his bluff was called, he was put on his harris.

Mind you, surely copping a good shot on the chin shouldn't be enough to finish a career?

Dont know....he smacked Jason Smith all overthe place at the KC IN the 2003/4 season and Smith could dish it out.

For me...the smack Mason gave him took all his "hardness" away....if he squared upto anybody after that,they knew they could have him....before that punch they would think twice.

: Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:06 pm  

Cragganmore Kid wrote:

Mind you, surely copping a good shot on the chin shouldn't be enough to finish a career?

I remember him having a go with Barrie Mac once... can't remember if it actually came to blows, but ye you could be right about him not being involved in actual fighting and probably more gesturing and intimidating stares.

It's hard to imagine the Mason incident being the reason, but I also remember he lost a parent at the time of the 2006 tri nations and I often wonder if everything combined just made him think f..k it, I really can't be bothered anymore.

Probably not the case, but it was about that time that he lost his menace and ability IMO.

: Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:08 pm  

fc baldy wrote:

Dont know....he smacked Jason Smith all over the place at the KC IN the 2003/4 season and Smith could dish it out.

For me...the smack Mason gave him took all his "hardness" away....if he squared upto anybody after that,they knew they could have him....before that punch they would think twice.

Fair enough re. the Smith thing, never saw it so can't comment.

But, it still doesn't sit right that the Mason thing turned him from hard man to wuss.

It's no shame being floored by someone of Mason's size, particularly given that he hit him with such a sweet one. If Fielden was genuinely a tough nut, he'd have got back on the park and showed it IMO.

In all seriousness, I think there's a lot to be said for burnout in Fielden's case. He regularly played long minutes under Noble, from about age 18 if I recall correctly, and at prop that is going to take its toll on the body.

I fear the same for Graham at Saints.

: Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:16 pm  

A few people have said that about Graham

I dont see it.

With Fielden it seems to have been a combination of things.
Too many games, loss of confidence, tragedy in the family etc..
I think he was playing with injuries for long periods as well.

I remember the Barry Mac thing.
Baz got a good punch in but Fielden didnt back off.
Ive also so him get a couple of shots on someone when he played for GB

I dont remember his technique when he was on top of his game but now he sets him self up to be floored almost every time he runs the ball.
He leads like Thakray does and loses possesion way to often.
Hes always third man in the tackle wasting energy when its not needed.

Shame really because he really was an awesome prop

: Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:48 pm  

saintcj wrote:

... I remember the Barry Mac thing.
Baz got a good punch in but Fielden didnt back off...

He was being held in a tackle by two Leeds players and Barrie Mac went in with a couple of haymakers. It took an effort for Fielden to get his arms free before he could attempt to get one back in.

Barrie was sent off, IIRC.